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-> Des McPherson (des_mcpherson@cl_63smtp_gw.chinalake.navy.mil) wrote:
-> : We are puchasing a Flyer and Alpha and would like to render on the
-> Alpha : and port the files over to the Flyer.  The current plan is to
-> use : removable hard drives and just move them back and forth.  The
-> question : is, can an A2000 recognize a hard drive that was formatted
-> on an Alpha(I : would assume it would be FAT).  Is there software
-> drivers for the A2000 : that can read such a formatted SCSI disk, or
-> is another solution more : practical.
->
-> : Thanks in advance,
-> : Des
->
-> Why not just network the two. Thats what I've done between my Alpha
-> and my Amigas, a MAC, and a Pentium.
Speed for one thing. If you have hundreds of med res frames to transfer
to an Amiga, rendering to a portable drive, removing one cable and
attaching another is a whole lot faster than sending the frames across a
network. To answer the original question, CrossDoss does indeed allow
use of a FAT drive on the Amiga, but those 8.3 file names can trip you
up. A better solution might be the new product from MaxDos that allows
NT machines to read Amiga drives.

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From: [e-mail] (Dan Bloomfield)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Measuring Distance in Layout?
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-> Right now I go into top view and kind of guess the size
-> needed based on the grid size and object size.  However there is no
-> grid in side or front view.
->
-> Is there some easy way to get size information?  Right now
-> I have been lucky in that I don't resize my objects after modeling so
-> I can use modeler to tell but it's kind of a hassle to go back and
-> forth.  Is there anyway to get a grid in all 3 orthographic views?
Don't worry about resizing objects in layout unless you use save
transformed. Just setting a size keyframe does not effect the texture
sizes, these will always remain the size they were modeled at. BTW the
easiest way to tell the size of a surface in layout is simply to go into
the attribute panel that you want to size and hit automatic sizing under
planar mapping. You can then look at the texture size values and see the
maximum size of the surface along each axis.

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-> Gratly improved over current implementations, but remember that there
-> are still limitations. Fingers and talking lips are fairly
-> complicated.
-> Remember that displacement plug-ins are available (which is what
-> bones are after all)!
->
-> JG
Where are these plug-ins available? Are these just beta, or is someone
actually selling them?

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From: Colin Cunningham <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Movie Posters
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Any particular posters you're looking for? There's a movie poster warehouse
where I live (Toronto). They sell every poster for every movie ever made (even
ones from the 30's).
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From: Colin Cunningham <[e-mail]>
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Well as I mentioned a while back, DIRECTOR'S CUTS of movies (Aliens, Abyss, T2,
Blade Runner) have been around for years and you don't see THEM replacing the
originals at video stores do you? In fact, you can't even GET those versions on
video (except Blade Runner). I don't see why Star Wars would be any different.

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Subject: Re: Lobby NewTek for Links to 3rd Party Sites
Date: 25 Jul 1995 17:38:01 GMT
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[e-mail] (Thomas M. Schaefer ) wrote:
>     Don't you think it would be great if NewTek would
>have a WWW page with links to related 3rd party products?

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From: [e-mail] (Michael B. Comet)
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Subject: MODELER: How to un-metaform? ie: simplify
Date: 25 Jul 1995 17:59:54 GMT
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        Hey it's probably in the manual but I'm at work right now
and thought of a question.  Is there a way to take some selected polygons
and un-metaform or simplify them?

        I am asking because I am trying to find a way to merge to
different objects together.  ie: do a boolean sub and then at the merger
points I want them to smoothly flow together.  I figure if I metaform
several times at the join section  it will start to merge smoothly...but
I don't want THAT many polys there.  So then I would go back and simplify
and then re-metaform until I get a smooth joint.

        Something like sticking a tube into a sphere and then getting
the sphere/tube to kind bulb up at the point smoothly.

        Will this work?  Thanks!

Mike Comet
[e-mail]


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Ernie Wright ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Get out your pencil.  LW motion files are ASCII text files that look some-
: thing like this:

Thanks Ernie!  You've cleared up a couple of things I always wondered about
LightWave motion files...

Now, can you tell me what software uses the .vue motion file format (I'm
pretty sure it is 3DS) and how does it relate to LightWave's motion file
format?  Is it possible to convert LW motion files to this .vue format?

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Phil South ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I know this is probably obvious, but how do you create single point polys
: in LW4 Intel without the use of the POint->polys Macro?

Well, if it's the same as LW 3.5 for the Amiga, then you select one point,
go to the Polygon panel and click on the Make button.  If you select more
than two points, you will make a normal polygon.

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: -> Remember that displacement plug-ins are available (which is what
: -> bones are after all)!
: -> JG

: Where are these plug-ins available? Are these just beta, or is someone
: actually selling them?

I should have been more specific and said that the plug-in *architecture*
is available for third parties to write displacement plug ins. Bones
aren't a plug-in, but they are a displacement algorithym.

JG

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From: Gary Coulter <[e-mail]>
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In article: <3utqg4$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (SWild19276) writes:
>
> Easily answered.  In our business (commercial & industrial video) we need
> to bet things out fast fast fast.  Quality comes first, speed second. ILM
> and PIXAR may be able to work magic with movie effects with huge budgets
> and long time deadlines, but as any professional in a large facility will
> tell you, most project get finalized & are due within a couple of days.

    ILM is not above utilizing software like Lightwave, during the
                pre-production for Jurassic, Amblin did walk cycle tests and
                scene animatics using a trusty A2000, Lightwave & Toaster.

> Alias (which we own) and Softimage are great software, to be sure, but you
> just can't model and preview things fast enough with 12 clients in the
> room. LW is an incredible tool for Online modeling and previewing, with
> features I can activate with a button.

    Sorry, I don`t agree, Alias is a vastly powerful 3D tool. If you
                use it and can`t mock things up fast enough it could be time
                to redo the Level 1 and 2 tutorials :-) Both Alias and Lightwave
                have their pros and cons, whilst using Alias I can here myself
                saying if only I had Lightwave, and the same with Alias. However
                in a production environment I would go for Alias and various
                other 3D packages on the SGI platform. You have to use the
                right tool for the job, ILM don`t use Alias, Wavefront, Softimage
                and RenderMan just to give their animators a little variety.........

> I believe LW's stellar future has
> only been waiting for the right platform (SGI, Alpha, etc.). I loved my
> Amigas, but the Amiga only held Lightwave back like a ball and chain.

    All 3D packages are waiting for that all important increase in
                platform power. A computer is just a BOX, if you can get by with
                an Amiga (fine) if not get a DEC Alpha or PC. Just the same as
                if you can get by with an Indy (fine) if not get an Indigo2 Ex or
                Onyx. A final word in support of the Amiga, simply put without
                the trusty Ami, Lightwave would not be where it is today, give
                its roots some credit .... Please.

    -Gary-
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Hello, Is anyone selling a used DPS Par board for the PC? If you
live close to Vancouver, BC; Please E-Mail me. Thank-You!



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Hello, Is anyone selling a used DPS Par board for the PC? If you
live close to Vancouver, BC; Please E-Mail me. Thank-You!



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Yes Glen, my post was indeed a flame, but it was really a flame at all of the
Amiga Bigots flaming everyone else when they make alegitimate post like Lee did.
All of his points were valid. And when I use the word Bigots, it does in no way
include all Amiga users, just those who look to the machine as an omniotent
being that will pulverize all other computers.



Brad Bowman
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FOR SALE:

Amiga 4000/040/25mzh
18 MB Ram
120 MB IDE Hard Drive
1942 De-Interlaced Monitor
3-Button Boing Mouse
OpalVision Main Board
DPS PAR (Personal Animation Recorder)
Conner 540 MB PAR Hard Drive
DPS Personal TBC IV
Loads of Software
Original Boxes and Manuals
Excellent Condition

$5500 or best offer
Price does not include shipping



E-MAIL BILL CAMAROTA/DATA PRODUCTIONS at:

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From: [e-mail] (Axtell805)
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Why would you limit yourself to a geographical range for talent this hard
to find?  With modems and digital info you could easily use the best
Lightwave talent from anywhere in the world.  Many professional shows do
it this way, for example read the Hercules article in Video Toaster User
dated July 95.  Just a thought for you to consider.  Good luck in RI.  Ax

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From: [e-mail] (Markish boyperson)
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    Lee, or anyone else who knows.  How well does the perception
synch with audio from a 'cheap' sound card like an ensoniqe (because
it has its nt drivers)?  Will I be able to use it as a digital video
engine and record 90 minutes of video and audio and rely on the
setup to maintain sych.  Please tell me there's nothing to worry
about.  Better yet, if anyone has two 9gig micropolis drives hooked
up to their perception and could give it a try.  Thanks a lot all,
    Mark    [e-mail]

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    Lee, or anyone that is in the position to know, or who
has been told by dps.  Exactly when are the nt drivers going
to be ready for the perception.  Thanks a lot for any help.
    Mark [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Shane Westgate)
Subject: Looking for CGI group in Ottawa
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NOTE:  My apologies if this post "intrudes" on your newsgroup.  I've tried
to target a few that are likely to have the answers I'm looking for.  If
you know a newsgroup that I've missed, please feel free to cross-post this
message.  Thank you.



     I'm the Vice-President of the Young AFCEANs (Ottawa Chapter).  AFCEA is
the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association.  It is an
international non-profit organization with members from military, government,
and industry who meet periodically to exchange ideas and share information on
topics concerning communications and electronics.  The Young AFCEANs are a
part of the AFCEA organization; the group leans towards a more technical view
of topics (ie: how it works versus the long-term implications of the
technology, etc).  The term "young" is a bit of a mis-nomer, the only age
requirement is that members of the executive be 35 or younger.

     From September through July, we hold monthly meetings (every second
Thursday of the month).  We invite a speaker for each meeting to dicuss a
topic of current interest to the community.  Recently, due to a number of
movies as well as television series such as Babylon 5, there is both a lot of
interest in and a lot of new developments in the field of computer graphics
(and especially computer animation).  Also, if I am to believe the media,
Canadians in particular have distinguished themselves as being leaders in
ever-exploding industry.  As such, I'd like to have one of our YA meetings
focus on it.  Due to the nature of computer animation, it would perhaps be
more effective to arrange a tour instead of the usual "speaker before an
audience" meeting.

     To that end, I'm looking for a company/group in the Ottawa region that
does computer animation of the sort I've mentioned above (ie: for TV,
commercials, demos, movies, videos, etc) and would be willing to host such a
tour.  To give you an idea of the "parameters" we're used to, our meetings
typically last 45 minutes with an audience of about 20 people.  That's
flexible, especially for something like a tour.  If, to really get something
out of it, it would take an hour and a half, that's fine.  We can also require
RSVPs for attendees and thus limit the numbers, if that's necessary.  The
audience tends to be techy-types, and will want to know what processor this
has and how many MIPS such-and-such can crank out, etc, etc, though I doubt
anyone will want to start opening things up to peek inside :)

     As for when I'd like this to happen, the November meeting is the
earliest open slot right now.  If someone is interested, please e-mail me or
phone at the number below.  Thank you for your time.


Sincerely,

Capt Shane Westgate
DDIS 3-2

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> Phil South ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : I know this is probably obvious, but how do you create single point
> polys : in LW4 Intel without the use of the POint->polys Macro?
>
> Well, if it's the same as LW 3.5 for the Amiga, then you select one
> point,
> go to the Polygon panel and click on the Make button.  If you select
> more
> than two points, you will make a normal polygon.
>
> --
>                                      -David Warner
>                                       Event Horizon Graphics
>

It's a lot easier if you have a macro, especially if you are making
starfields. :?(

---
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Phil South <[e-mail]>   "nuqDaq yuch Dapol"
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The mortal Brad Bowman wrote:
: Yes Glen, my post was indeed a flame, but it was really a flame at all of the
: Amiga Bigots flaming everyone else when they make alegitimate post like Lee did.

It's all offtopic.  Amiga "bigots" wallowing in their isolation from the
mainstream is no less despicable than the mainstream pounding down a
platform while it's "down".

My advice is to just let these threads die and deal with Lightwave issues,
period.  When you bring people together from opposite camps there is going
to be tension.  Without referees trying to impose some sanity here, things
are going to get far uglier.  Those of you who have no platform loyalty
won't relate to the wars.  But that doesn't mean having platform-loyalty
is bad.  Not everyone who uses LW has a blindly pragmatic "it's a tool
only  mindset and I think those who have platform loyalty have a right to
feel as they do, even if it's built on dubious logic.  Because ultimately
it's a matter of taste which is more than specmark comparisons.  Everyone
has their own reasons for using what they do and they don't like other
people telling them what they should and shouldn't use.





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From: [e-mail] (Hardin Brett Arvid)
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Subject: Re: Scene Files - PC ->Amiga
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Dan Ablan ([e-mail]) wrote:
| [e-mail] (Walter J. Turberville (III)) wrote:
| >I have had few problems moving scene files from the Amiga to the PC.
| >However, when I recently went the other way (PC to Amiga), I had significant
| >problems.  It appears that the problem is caused by the different way that the
| >PC and the Amiga handle ends-of-lines in scene files.  When I load a PC scene
| >file on the Amiga I end up with a little "box" character (I'm assuming its a
| >LF or CR) on lights and null-objects.  This does not go away after saving the
| >scene on the Amiga.  In fact, when the scene is reloaded, it seems to cause
| >problems with parenting and I am getting a "infinite parenting loop" error
| >that did not exist previously.  It seems like I need a simple utility (AREXX
| >script?) to search and replace the correct ends-of-line.  Any ideas?  Any
| >similar experiences?
| >
This question has been answered pretty thoroughly, one little utility
that has been of some use to me in the past is 'tr' (Translate) a unix
like utility that is basically a search and replace type of operation.
Works well with the various piping options for the Amiga.  In fact with
about eight consecutive tr commands (simultaneouly piped if your feeling
brave) will translate just about everything you need to convert from one
format to the other.



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Bill Boyce ([e-mail]) wrote:
| Hi all

| I purchase an early version of sparks, and it never worked (claimed LW wasn't running).
| $200 down the tubes. Does anyone know where I can get an upgrade? I know it has changed
| hands but to who, where, and is it worth having??

| Thanks.
I seem to remember speaking to the original author about that a few months ago,
I'll track down the info and let you know.



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The last thing in the world I want to do is take away credit from the
Amiga platform. If I didn't give it any credit, I never would have
bothered writing software for it. However, what kept the Amiga back was
COMMODORE, with outdated pricing, and horrible (if existent) marketing.
The Amiga was ahead of it's time for years, but developers were not
courted the way they are for other platforms and C seemed to feel that
what was once a great machine would always be a great machine. It WAS a
great machine, but a TOTAL overhaul of the hardware was needed years ago,
and 24-bit should have been a part of the OS 4 years ago. I still love my
Amiga, but wouldn't want to paint 24-bit with ANY of it's software.

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
("Phil South") wrote:

> Are there any good spline patching tutorials out there? If not can anyone
> explain to me how it works, because I've seen a lot of talk about it
> being a good way to make nice curvy organic shapes.
>
> ---
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Phil South <[e-mail]>   "nuqDaq yuch Dapol"
> -------------------------------------------------------------


There is a book out there called LightWave Organic Modeling by David
Duberman its pretty good! It got me started spline modeling. I can't
remember where I got it, but here is the publishers address:

Motion Blur Publishing
915A Stambaugh Street
Redwood City, CA  94063

--
Terry Wester

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Available now, one unused copy of lightwave 4.0 pre-release for intel
machines...

$710 + S/H
$5 UPS Ground (4-5days)
$10 2nd Day Delivery

Tank Taylor
Vision Imaging
[e-mail]


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From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" <[e-mail]>
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    I saw a neat program on Discovery (Beyond 2000, I think) where they were showing how a
company called Metro Media prints bill board pictures 14ft X 48 ft!  I called the company in
Los Angeles and believe it or not, the prints are at about 7 to 8 dots per inch.  Pulling out
the trusty calculator... (12x14x7) by (12x48x7 is about 1200 vertical by 4000 horizontal.
Other sizes are also available.  This should be doable in Lightwave.  Metro Media sent me 2 PC
disks that leads you through the steps to creating and sending them a file they can print from.

     As soon as I can talk a client in to it, I'm going to put a lightwave print up on a
bill board around here.  Meanwhile, wouldn't it be cool to have a Babylon 5 frame put up on a
bill board on Sunset to advertise the show?

     Write if you want Metro Media's phone number.

Tom Schaefer
Strategic Video
Producers of the Frequent Flyer Video Clips(r)
"Stock Video for the Digital Age"



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Leonard)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rotor) wrote:

[]>  I've got PhotoShop running on my Amiga 3000!
[]> For a $40 registration fee (which is
[]>optional...as you can run the ShareWare version fine...just is a little
slower) you get a
[]>VERY solid Mac emulator.

Why the hell don't you just buy a Mac?

[]> I got a used GVPSpectrum card for $200 and an extra 4MB of RAM (now
[]>have 12MB) and now can run PhotoShop in 24bit- AND IT RUNS ALMOST AS
FAST AS OUR QUADRA!

Runs almost as fast as _what_ Quadra?  What version of the system software
are you running?  What version of Photoshop?  Plus, with 12MB of RAM, you
are SOL if you want to run a filter in Photoshop 3 on an image larger than
screen res.

Also, let's not forget there's info in the Mac ROMS (which your emulator
does not have).  I really don't believe it is as solid as you say it is.
You will not be able to take advantage of many of the newer Apple
technologies that are being introduced.

[]>  PhotoShop is the most incredible image manipulation software! (Not
batch processing like
[]>ADPro though :( )  Between PhotoShop and Fractal Design Painter there's
narry a texture you
[]>can't create!  I also just ordered FD Poser, a utility that lets you
position Human figures
[]>easily to create 'poses'- It's my hope that, as it exports DFX files, I
can use the poses as
[]>morph targets to move human figures in LW!

Dude... you OBVIOUSLY want all of the Mac applications, why not swallow it
and buy a Mac?  Use your Amiga as your 3D workstation only!  Go to a REAL
Mac for REAL 2D functionality.

[]> - not I'm trying to save up for RanderMan!

Forget it... Pixar discontinued RenderMan for the PC and the Macintosh
last week.  Get an SGI.

Bill Leonard
[e-mail]
______________________________________________________________________________
                               cyber.lab g.f.x.
  3D Animation * Modeling * Special Effects * Station ID Packages * Pre-Viz

                                 407.425.5722
                  http://www.magicnet.net/~bill_l/top.html
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] ("Phil South") writes:
>From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
>Subject: Re: LightWave PC Macros, Where? How?
>Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:46:59 GMT

>At the moment I'm having to do
>the macro stuff in LW 3.5 on the Amiga dn port it across, which could get
>a bit dicey as I  then have a notional limit of 720k on object size. (The
>size of a PC disk. Okay sure I could link up TWIN and send them down the
>null modem cable, but that's not a perfect solution, ie. it doesn't work
>the whole time.

>---
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>Phil South <[e-mail]>   "nuqDaq yuch Dapol"
>-------------------------------------------------------------

You can always use a file compression utility (like lz on the Amiga and lha on
the PC).  They seem to generally reduce an object file by about half.

_________________________________________________________________
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Greetings! I have a copy of Lightwave V3.5 SA for the amiga for sale.
Includes dongle, manual(s), the free videotape, disks, etc..
I've upgraded to 4.0 for the PC, and have no use for it. I'll sign a document
signing all ownership rights to the new user.
I paid around $565.00 US for it in April.
Any offers?

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Everyone has their own reasons for using what they do and they don't like
other
people telling them what they should and shouldn't use.
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Ummmm - read the thread topic, please....


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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: Lobby NewTek for Links to 3rd Party Sites
Date: 26 Jul 1995 05:48:43 GMT
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Brady Caverly ([e-mail]) wrote:

: [e-mail] (Thomas M. Schaefer ) wrote:
: >     Don't you think it would be great if NewTek would
: >have a WWW page with links to related 3rd party products?

Certainly!  But right now NewTek has their hands full with product releases
and bug fixes.

According to Chuck Baker, there are plans to eventually have the NewTek BBS
linked to the Internet, and since they have a Web site already, I assume
this 3rd party product links idea would eventually become reality.  It's
probably not a bad idea to bug them about it though...

--
                                     -David Warner
                                      Event Horizon Graphics


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Got a nice call just now from Tony Velez
([e-mail]).  He called to give his
compliments on my Light Speed #1 tutorial and
asked if I knew how to record the results of that
LW tutorial on how to make a B5 Shadow decloak
so that the Flyer could play the anim back.

To the best of my assumptions, I told him to save
his LW anim as either IFFs or Framestores and to
search his Flyer manual for the procedure to import
the singular frames and convert them into a Flyer
clip.

I also told him I would ask all of you how it's REALLY
done, not having a Flyer myself.  Tony has JUST gotten
his Flyer and is quite new to LW animating, too.  ANY
help posted to me ([e-mail]) or to Tony at
his address above, is greatly appreciated!!!  Please do so
within the next 12-24 hrs.  Thanks!

Dean Scott

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In article: <3v3qrf$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (SWild19276) writes:
>
> The last thing in the world I want to do is take away credit from the
> Amiga platform. If I didn't give it any credit, I never would have
> bothered writing software for it. However, what kept the Amiga back was
> COMMODORE, with outdated pricing, and horrible (if existent) marketing.
> The Amiga was ahead of it's time for years, but developers were not
> courted the way they are for other platforms and C seemed to feel that
> what was once a great machine would always be a great machine. It WAS a
> great machine, but a TOTAL overhaul of the hardware was needed years ago,
> and 24-bit should have been a part of the OS 4 years ago. I still love my
> Amiga, but wouldn't want to paint 24-bit with ANY of it's software.
>
    I could not agree more!, thats why I trashed Amiga Brilliance
      and purchased PhotoshopV3 for my PC,  although I still use
                the Amiga for modelling and rendering.
--
* -=> MA Multimedia Design <=-------------------------------------------- *
             Gary Coulter... EMAIL: [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Michael B. Comet)
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+======================================================================+
|                             Lightwave 3D                             |
|                      FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS                      |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                              Written By                              |
|                           Michael B. Comet                           |
+======================================================================+

        This is the Frequently Asked Questions posting for the Lightwave
3D Mailing list and Newsgroup.  This posting is sent every so often to
answer general questions that users of the 3D rendering software,
Lightwave 3D by NewTek may have.  It is aimed toward all users,
especially newcomers to the program.

        If you find any errors or have answers to other frequently asked
questions that you would like to have included in this posting, please
send e-mail to: [e-mail].

        - Mike C.

========================================================================

                       COPYRIGHT & DISCLAIMER

The Lightwave 3D FAQ is Copyright 1995 Michael B. Comet.
  All Rights Reserved.

No portion of the Lightwave 3D FAQ my be duplicated in part or in whole,
by any means electronic or otherwise without prior written consent of
the author.  The Lightwave 3D FAQ may not be sold either individually
or as part of other material.  The Lightwave 3D FAQ may be distributed
via electronic mail, Usenet news and other internet resources so long
as no charge is incurred for the actual document itself.

There is no guarantee regarding any information presented in this
document either implicit or implied.  The information may not be
correct, useful or helpful.  The reader accepts ALL responsibility for
actions pertaining to reading this document regardless of consequence.

========================================================================

Date          : July 24, 1995 Mon.
Issue Number  : 2
What's New    : Section 1, #2: Added Lightwave PRO Magazine
                Section 1, #2: Added LIGHTSPEED Magazine
                Section 1, #2: Corrected address and phone for VTU oops!
                Section 1, #5: LW Plug-In Information
                Section 1, #7: Transfering scenes from PC to Amiga
                Section 3, #3: Fading Lens Flares Info.
                Section 3, #4: How to copy surfaces
                Section 3, #5: Figuring sizes in Layout

Current Version of LW as of this FAQ:  LW 4.0 Pre-release

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CONTENTS:
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    SECTION 1 - Support/Products/Sites
         1] How do I reach NewTek?
         2] Lightwave related: References/Help Books/Magzines/FTP sites.
         3] What is the Lightwave Newsgroup and how can I obtain it?
         4] Is there any documentation regarding the 3D Object File
            format for Lightwave Objects?
         5] How can I write my own Plug-Ins for Lightwave?
         6] I am having problems installing LW from the CD-ROM!
         7] I am having problems transfering scene files from the PC to
            the Amiga

    SECTION 2 - Lightwave Modeler
         1] How do I merge multiple layers into one layer?

    SECTION 3 - Lightwave Layout - Surfaces and Textures
         1] List of common Index of Refractions (and not so common too!)
         2] I texture my object and save my scene, but next time I
            load the scene the settings are gone!
         3] My Lens Flares fade behind objects I don't want them too!
         4] How can I copy a surface and paste it onto another?
         5] How can I measure the size of my object to figure out
            texture sizes?

    SECTION 4 - Lightwave Layout - Animation
         1] I move my objects into position, but they keep "forgetting"
            where they were.
         2] I have problems setting bones for my object.  My object
            keeps resizing or changing.
         3] Can I click on an item to select it in Layout?
         4] Whenever I create a preview wireframe animation, my objects
            don't show up, but I can see Lightsources and paths.
         5] How can I copy a keyframe for an item?

========================================================================
                   SECTION 1 - Support Products/Sites
========================================================================

1] How do I reach NewTek?

    NewTek, Inc.
    Executive Offices
    1200 SW Executive Drive
    Topeka, KS 66615

    Voice:            913-228-8000
    FAX:              913-228-8001
    Customer Service: 800-847-6111
    Dealer Sales:     800-368-5441
    Dealer FAX:       [phone]

    TECHNICAL SUPPORT

    Voice:            913-228-8282
    FAX:              913-228-8222
    BBS:              913-271-9299

    Those with World Wide Web access might also wish to look at
    http://www.newtek.com/
    which has product information and pricing.

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2] Lightwave related: References/Help Books/Magzines/FTP sites.

  REFERENCES AND HELP BOOKS:

    "Lightwave 3D Layout Reference and Modeler Reference", NewTek Inc., 1995
                   (Yes....read the manual!)

  MAGAZINES:

    These are some good graphics magazines, some focus on Lightwave, the
Video Toaster or general graphics.  If anyone has some other suggestions
please mail me the pertintent information.

    "LightWavePRO"
    Avid Media Group
    273 N. Mathilda Ave.
    Sunnyvale, CA 94086
    800-322-2843
    408-774-6770
            (LightWavePRO is the definitive LightWave Newsletter/journal
    for the LightWave user.)

    "LIGHTSPEED: The video Magazine for the Lightwave enthusiast"
    2763 West Ave L Suite 172
    Lancaster  CA 93636
    Voice: (800) 764 - 8696
       or  (805) 726 - 3545
            (Lightspeed is a new video magazine series released
    monthly that users can subscribe to.  Each issue contains many
    tutorials, product reviews, and animations.  Run Time per video is
    approx. 90-120 mins in length.  Each issue also contains tutorials
    and reviews by different people so you get a variety of styles and
    techniques.)

    "Video Toaster User"
    Avid Media Group
    273 N. Mathilda Ave.
    Sunnyvale, CA 94086
    800-322-2843 USA
    408-774-6770
            (A magazine focusing specifically on NewTeks Video
    Toaster device.  Also has a Lightwave column.)

    "Computer Artist"
    P.O. Box 3188
    Tulsa, OK 74101
    Voice: (918) 831 - 9405
    FAX:   (918) 831 - 9555
        (A magazine specifically for computer artists.  Articles on
    software and methods from Amigas, PC's and MAC's)

    "Computer Graphics World"
    P.O Box 122
    Tulsa, OK 74101-9845
    (800) 443 - 6632
    (918) 835 - 3161 ext. 400
    (918) 831 - 9497 (FAX)
            (A general computer graphics magazine focusing on the
    latest technology from PC's to SGI's)

    "AV Video"
    Montage Publishing Inc.
    P.O Box 16925
    North Hollywood, CA 91615
         or
    701 Wetchester Ave.
    White Plains, NY 10604
    Voice: (914) 328 - 9157
           (800) 800 - 5474
    FAX:   (914) 328 - 9093
        (An audio/video and computer magazine.  Has articles about all
    types of video and graphics applications including the Amiga and
    Video Toaster)

  FTP SITES:

    Those with internet access can use FTP to retrieve and send
Lightwave Objects, Scenes, Surfaces and more.

    FTP Site:  tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu
    Path:      /pub/lw

    New items should be placed in the appropriate directory under
/pub/lw/incoming

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3] What is the Newsgroup and how can I obtain it?

Obtain access to Usenet news on the internet.  Then run your
newsreader software and use the USENET newsgroup for Lightwave:

        comp.graphics.apps.lightwave

There is also an older group named though you should now use '.apps.':

        comp.graphics.packages.lightwave        (obsolete)

    Once again this group is setup so that people may post questions,
answers and related discussions about Lightwave 3D.

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4] Is there any documentation regarding the 3D Object File format for
   Lightwave Objects?

    For documentaion on the 3D Object file format FTP to:

    FTP Site:   ftp.netcom.com
    Path:       pub/lw/lwsdk
    Filename:   fmtLWOB

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5] How can I write my own Plug-Ins for Lightwave?

You need to get the LightWave Server Developer Kit (LWSDK) which
contains headers, libraries, samples and documentation for plug-in
development.  The LWSDK is available for the Amiga OS, SGI IRIX, and
Win32 on Intel, MIPS and Alpha platforms.

The LWSDK is supported on the "lwplugin-l" mailing list.  To subscribe
to the list, send a message to "[e-mail]" with the message
body (subject is ignored):

        subscribe lwplugin-l <optional-email-address>

You will receive a informational message when you subscribe explaining
the list and how to get the LWSDK by FTP.  To get the informational
message without subscribing, send a message to the same address above
with the message body:

        info lwplugin-l

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6] I am having problems installing LW from the CD-ROM!

    Some CD-ROM drives have a problem reading certain files off of the
LW 4.0 Pre-release CD-ROM.  To do a complete install, run the LW install
again, but do not select PostScript Fonts.  Then manually copy the
fonts over from the CD-ROM when the installation completes.  Some
PostScripts fonts such as "Unitus" may not copy over.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

7] I am having problems transfering scene files from the PC to the Amiga

   The PC and Amiga handle Carrige Return and Line Feed characters
slightly differently.  You need to convert CR/LF <-> LF.  If you are
using CrossDOS turn on the file filter to do this.  CrossDOS will also
handle Control-Z EOF markers that DOS uses.  You can also strip out
the CTRL-M's on the Amiga side.

========================================================================
                  SECTION 2 - Lightwave Modeler
========================================================================

1] How do I merge multiple layers into one layer?

    Bring each layer you want to merge into the foreground.  (ie: Shift
click the foreground layer button for each layer).  Then select "Cut"
to remove all data and keep it in memory.  Then select "Paste" to
place all the data into the first selected foreground layer.

========================================================================
           SECTION 2 - Lightwave Layout - Surfaces and Textures
========================================================================

1] List of common Index of Refractions (and not so common too!)

         (All items except Vacuum are in alphabetical order)
         (STP = Standard Temperature and Pressure)

         MATERIAL                      Index
         -------------------------------------
         Vacuum ...................... 1.00000 (exactly)

         Air (STP).................... 1.00029
         Acetone ..................... 1.36
         Alcohol ..................... 1.329
         Amorphous Selenium .......... 2.92
         Calspar1 .................... 1.66
         Calspar2 .................... 1.486
         Carbon Disulfide ............ 1.63
         Chromium Oxide .............. 2.705
         Copper Oxide ................ 2.705
         Crown Glass ................. 1.52
         Crystal ..................... 2.00
         Diamond ..................... 2.417
         Emerald ..................... 1.57
         Ethyl Alcohol ............... 1.36
         Flourite .................... 1.434
         Fused Quartz ................ 1.46
         Heaviest Flint Glass ........ 1.89
         Heavy Flint Glass ........... 1.65
         Glass ....................... 1.5
         Ice ......................... 1.309
         Iodine Crystal .............. 3.34
         Lapis Lazuli ................ 1.61
         Light Flint Glass ........... 1.575
         Liquid Carbon Dioxide ....... 1.20
         Polystyrene ................. 1.55
         Quartz 1 .................... 1.644
         Quartz 2 .................... 1.553
         Ruby ........................ 1.77
         Sapphire .................... 1.77
         Sodium Chloride (Salt) 1 .... 1.544
         Sodium Chloride (Salt) 2 .... 1.644
         Sugar Solution (30%) ........ 1.38
         Sugar Solution (80%) ........ 1.49
         Topaz ....................... 1.61
         Water (20 C) ................ 1.333
         Zinc Crown Glass ............ 1.517

------------------------------------------------------------------------

2] I texture my object and save my scene, but next time I load the
   scene the settings are gone!

    Surface settings are saved with the object file not the scene file.
After surfacing your object in layout, choose the "Object Panel" and
then "Save Object" (or save all objects).  Choose Yes to overwrite the
objects with the new coloring.  Next time you load the scene or load
the object into another scene the surfaces will be correct.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

3] My Lens Flares fade behind objects I don't want them too!

        Lens flares can fade out behind objects.  To do this simply
set "Fade Behind Objects" button in the Lens Flare panel.  However any
object with 'Cast Shadows' turned OFF will allow the flare to show
through (ie: it won't fade).  Thus by making say the glass in a bulb
not cast shadows, a flare inside will still show.  However if you move
the bulb behind an object that casts shadows the flare will fade behind.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

4] How can I copy a surface and paste it onto another?

        There is no actual cut and paste operation.  However you can
save the surface you want, select the new surface and then load the
previous settings into place.  The usual way to do this is to select
the source surface and then to save the surface to a name such as
'temp.srf'.  Then select the target surface and load temp.srf.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

5] How can I measure the size of my object to figure out texture sizes?

    There are two ways.  Once is to manually build several grid objects.
Basically create a flat cube in modeler with a set size and set number
of sections.  When you load it into layout you can use this as a
reference.  Under the 'Object' panel you can turn on "Polygon Edges" so
that the grid even shows during rendering.

    Another easy way is when starting to set your texture or imagemap,
select the default "Planar Texture" and then choose "Automatic Size".
Lightwave will then set the center information to the center of the
surface and the size to the size in meters of the surface.  Note this
works on a per surface not a per object basis.

========================================================================
              SECTION 4 - Lightwave Layout - Animation
========================================================================

1] I move my objects into position, but they keep "forgetting" where
   they were.

    In order for Lightwave to remember the postion, rotation, size other
other settings of objects during an animation you must make a keyframe
for that object.  To do so, select "Create Key".  Then select either
"Selected Item" or "All" depending on if you want to create a keyframe
for just the selected item or for all items.

   An improtant note: Even if you create a key frame for an object
Light or Camera, if you go back later and alter it's position, rotation
or other setting you must choose "Create Key" again.  Otherwise the
item will be set back to it's last "key" setting.

    This is why there is no UNDO function in Layout.  If you wish to
undo a change, simply go back or forth to another frame without
choosing "Create Key".  When you return to the frame, the item will be
reset to it's last settings.

    HOWEVER, if you want to be able to simply change an item that
already has a keyframe set without having to select "Create Key" again
for that frame, choose "Auto Key Adjust" from the Option menu in Layout.
This sets Layout to always remember the last settings for an item when
you alter it in a keyframe.  Note that the only undo ability will be to
reload a saved scene in this case.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

2] I have problems setting bones for my object.  My object keeps
   resizing or changing.

   In order to place bones for your object there are 4 basic steps.

   1. Add a bone
   2. Position the bone, and resize it using REST LENGTH not size.
   3. Create a Keyframe for the bone
   4. Press 'r' to active it and set it's rest information.

   There are 2 important notes.  If you want to change the size of
the bone for setup, use the "Rest Length" operation, not the "Size"
operation.  Otherwise when you press 'r' the object will suddenly
grow or shrink.

    Also, you should set a keyframe for the bone, or it will be reset
to it's default settings.

TIP for adding Child Bones:

    Because child bones are added relative to their parent bones, it's
often easier to add 1 parent bone first and get it setup to the proper
size and rotation.  Then go and add a child bone or bones.  If you
do this, the child bones size will probably be more appropriate.  On
the other hand if you add all your bones at once, you will have to set
the Rest Length for each.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

3] Can I click on an item to select it in Layout?

    Yes, you should press the SHIFT key and click on objects origin.
The origin is the location of the object that rotations take place
around.  Note this is in Lightwave 4.0 and you must click fairly close
to that position.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

4] Whenever I create a preview wireframe animation, my objects don't
   show up, but I can see Lightsources and paths.

    In the Windows version of Lightwave, some display cards have a
problem with their video driver software.  This causes objects to
not appear when you create a wireframe preview.  To remedy this you
should contact your display card manufacturer to obtain a new version
of your graphics drivers.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

5] How can I copy a keyframe for an item?

        Go to the key frame you wish to copy.  Select "Create Key".
Now, change the frame number for the create key dialog to the frame
you wish to copy to.  Click Ok.

========================================================================
END OF LW3D-FAQ


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In article <3v43h3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Glenn Saunders) writes:

>My advice is to just let these threads die and deal with Lightwave issues,
>period.  When you bring people together from opposite camps there is going
>to be tension.  Without referees trying to impose some sanity here, things
>are going to get far uglier.  Those of you who have no platform loyalty
>won't relate to the wars.  But that doesn't mean having platform-loyalty
>is bad.  Not everyone who uses LW has a blindly pragmatic "it's a tool
>only  mindset and I think those who have platform loyalty have a right to
>feel as they do, even if it's built on dubious logic.  Because ultimately
>it's a matter of taste which is more than specmark comparisons.  Everyone
>has their own reasons for using what they do and they don't like other
>people telling them what they should and shouldn't use.

i hadn't followed this particular thread too closely...though i did post one
follow-up (meant to be humorous--so i'm not all that funny).  anyhow, the
thread lends itself to platform bigotry by the very nature of the subject
line.  o.k., maybe bigotry and abuse are not implicit but will occur.

well, my advice--as a diehard amiga user--would be for the original poster
(whoever he may be) to get an alpha.  that is the powerhourse in the
aforementioned list.

greg

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From: [e-mail] (Rotor)
Subject: Re: YES! Finally I'm running PhotoShop on my Amiga!
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Bill Leonard ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rotor) wrote:

: Why the hell don't you just buy a Mac?

   Macs are much more than $40... I can use the saved $ to upgrade my current system...

: Runs almost as fast as _what_ Quadra?  What version of the system software
: are you running?  What version of Photoshop?  Plus, with 12MB of RAM, you
: are SOL if you want to run a filter in Photoshop 3 on an image larger than
: screen res.

   Quadra 800. I'm running System 7.5. PhotoShop 3.0...  Yes, true about the RAM- I need to
buy more...


: Also, let's not forget there's info in the Mac ROMS (which your emulator
: does not have).  I really don't believe it is as solid as you say it is.
: You will not be able to take advantage of many of the newer Apple
: technologies that are being introduced.

  ShapeShifter loads the Mac ROMs (or rather an image of them) from the HardDrive.  A program
comes with Shapeshifter to suck the image of the Roms out of a Mac


: []>  PhotoShop is the most incredible image manipulation software! (Not
: batch processing like
: []>ADPro though :( )  Between PhotoShop and Fractal Design Painter there's
: narry a texture you
: []>can't create!  I also just ordered FD Poser, a utility that lets you
: position Human figures
: []>easily to create 'poses'- It's my hope that, as it exports DFX files, I
: can use the poses as
: []>morph targets to move human figures in LW!

: Dude... you OBVIOUSLY want all of the Mac applications, why not swallow it
: and buy a Mac?  Use your Amiga as your 3D workstation only!  Go to a REAL
: Mac for REAL 2D functionality.

  I can get an '060 card for my current setup for the same price I can get a used Mac- and
that Mac would be much slower ('030...maybe LC040)..  I also like the having the ability to
cut-and-paste between Amiga and Mac software. (I can switch back and forth between Mac and
Amiga with a keystroke, and the clipboard is preserved cross-platform.)

: []> - not I'm trying to save up for RanderMan!

: Forget it... Pixar discontinued RenderMan for the PC and the Macintosh
: last week.  Get an SGI.

Please, do you think if I could afford an SGI and all the software I would have any
hesitations also getting a PowerMAC?  (DECAlpha's next on my list anyway...)  I don't know
how much we paid for Randerman (have it at work) but I know it was EXPENSIVE...all SGI
software is...


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From: [e-mail] (Michel Pelletier)
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Subject: Hummer scene (LWPRO disk)
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Hi,
   I am trying to find the Hummer scene file on the net. I know that it
was included on a previous LWPRO disk *BUT* it don't subscribe to it. Any
help?

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Yes they do its at -> http://www.newtek.com


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From: [e-mail] (BRENDAN BUSSMANN)
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Phil South ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Oh dear, problems problems... I've been running Lightwave quite happily
: on my p90 using Windows 3.11 and Win32s, but now I've installed Win95
: Beta and the program won't work. I tried re-installing it, but the same
: thing happens. It's funny but when I installed the program on another
: Win95 machine, it was easy and I wasn't asked for the drivers for the
: dongle at all, but this time I was. I have no idea how to install the
: drivers and I have no idea what is causing the problem. Does this mean I
: have to go back to WFW 3.11?

: When I start the program I get an "Initialsation Failed" message, and on
: Modeler I get an error 212. Anyone know what is going on? The Win95 is
: the new June build, and this might be the cause of the proble, I'm using
: beta software on a beta operating system so I suppose I deserve
: everything I get!?!

: Please any ideas would be most gratefully recieved, as I am about t
: embark on some work and I can't run the darn program anymore...


To properly install Lightwave under Win95, install the NT version, and
do not install the NT device driver, as Win95 dosen't need it.  Not
that you could anyway, it's for NT only.
I've been running lightwave flawlessly on every Win95 build since the
march test release (remember "final beta"?).
From what I understand, the NT and Win32 versions of lightwave are
EXACTLY the same, the only difference is that you install Win32 on
windoze 3.1 (not needed for Win95) or the device driver for WinNT
(also not needed for Win95).  So, just install the program on disk 1
and that's it. (Well, the dongle DOES need to be plugged into the
parallel port...)
Now, this worked flawlessly at work, at home it was a slightly
diferent story.  During the few months I owned a PC (those were dark
times... :) ) I found that my computer wouldn't recognize the dongle
in the parallel port unless I plugged a parallel cable into the back
of it.  Even though there wasn't actually a printer hooked up, the
system recognized the dongle without fail from there on out.
I have no idea why it worked that way, I do know that it had nothing
to with my OS, since it behaved the same way on 3.1 as well as 95 (I
think, it's been a while).  You might try this, even mine was the only
computer I've ever encountered that need this to be done.
Damn generic clones.... :)

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: Phil South <[e-mail]>   "nuqDaq yuch Dapol"
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You strike me as a level headed type of guy and you are probably right. I was
just trying to agree with Lee and add a bit of lighthearted comment but the
bigots came after me with their large flamethrowers just as predicted. I rest my case.



Brad Bowman
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Thanks to all who helped on my "Stencil" and "Camera resizing" problems!
The answers were a great help.
-John Sonedecker

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From: Adam Ives Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FINALLY!!! NewTek adds are elsewhere!!!
Date: 26 Jul 1995 02:51:57 GMT
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  My eyes dropped tonight! Finally, I saw a LightWave add by
NewTek in this months issue of CGW!!!

GOOD GOING!!!!!

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz
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From: [e-mail] (Paolo Hutchison)
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Subject: Lightwave - Intel - Final?
Date: 26 Jul 1995 06:38:03 GMT
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I'm starting to do more and more 3D animations for businesses, etc. and
my partner and I are trying to decide on a single platform to do most of
our animation work, and at this point it's between 3D Studio (which I've
used for a couple years now and know pretty well) and Lightwave 4.0.
But it's hard to evaluate a product on a pre-release version.  So if
someone could answer a few questions for me I'd be most appreciative!

Will there be the ability to import file formats other than LWO and LWS,
DXF, PRJ, 3DS, SCN, COB, etc?

Will there be the ability to render to AVI's, FLC's, etc?

Will there be better documentation?

Is there any way to get a rendered picture on the screen other than
turning on the view on render (small window) or just rendering to a file
and then bringing that file up in a graphic viewing program?

Why are you limited to one view at a time in the Layout program?

Is there any way to render an object in the modeller?

Do you recommend any good books on LW4.0?

----

Thanks in Advance!

-paolo
[e-mail]


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From: Adam Ives Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Getting Lightwave 4.0
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You didn;t have an Amiga..but bought the 3.5 just to get the
upgrade special??? WOW! What people will do....Well, you can;t
be mad if you didn;t play by the rules..If you had an
Amiga...you could be
renderingggggggggggggggg...ggggggggggggg....ggggggggggggg

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz
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From: Adam Ives Chrystie <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: FS: Lightwave V3.5 SA
Date: 26 Jul 1995 07:30:39 GMT
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[e-mail] (Richard Peterson) wrote:
>Greetings! I have a copy of Lightwave V3.5 SA for the amiga for sale.
>Includes dongle, manual(s), the free videotape, disks, etc..
>I've upgraded to 4.0 for the PC, and have no use for it. I'll sign a document
>signing all ownership rights to the new user.
>I paid around $565.00 US for it in April.
>Any offers?

  Uh...if you transfer your ownership rites then i would
assume under legal code that 4.0 goes to the new owner
also..for the following reason...your upgrade is
theorectically, mearly an extension of your original 3.5
purchase..now i assume that your little transaction here would
be some form of estople towards NewTek....But of course, most
of us think economically and fail to see the reasons that we
are given such nice upgrade offers.

but then again..who would want 3.5SA with no option to upgrade
to 4.0..sine you've already upgraded?..questions..questionss

Any layers out there...am i on the right track..should i
abandon animation and suffer in law school... ;)

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz
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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: INTEL, Ami, or Alpha?
Date: 26 Jul 1995 17:37:58 -0400
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-------------------
You strike me as a level headed type of guy and you are probably right. I
was
just trying to agree with Lee and add a bit of lighthearted comment but
the
bigots came after me with their large flamethrowers just as predicted. I
rest my case
--------------------

Yeah. Me too.


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan


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Subject: Does NewTek has an FTP site?
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Hi All,
I'm quite new here so I don't know if NewTek has an FTP site or other
newsgroups discussing about Video Toaster and Flyer. It would be
appreciated if anyone can give me the names and addresses.
Thanks a lot.

Lakanon

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From: Glenn Giesbrecht <[e-mail]>
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Subject: LightWave 4.0 PC Macros, How can I get these?
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Does anyone know where LightWave PC Modeller Macros exist?
Is there an FTP Site other than TomaHawk? They only have one
Plug-In so far. Even if the Macros are simple, please let me know.
Ex: Center, Router, Bounding Box. Thank-You!



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From: [e-mail] (Boolean Polygon)
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Glyn Williams ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: >>- expensive
: >
: >Well, I can't really argue with this one. Hopefully this will change
: soon.
:
: Escom have just announced their first Amiga products will be in the shops
: in September. First up to the bat is the Amiga 1200 some 50UKP *more*
: expensive than it was under Commodore.
:
: Hmmmmm
:
: Glyn Williams

We dont know what the prices will be. There was a price being sent around
the net recently which isnt after all correct. Just a few days ago there
was an Escom - US distributorship conference in Philly and that is where
things were finally settled. For those interested, it looks hopeful, as
far as development, availablility and pricing are concerned. This is not
the proper newsgroup to just throw it out there so I won't get into detail,
but you can start looking for ads in September. The larger distribs who
can advertise more will probably be getting the better discounts. CEI is
only one of them.
--
Help!! I'm trapped in a .sig factory and can't get out!!

CXC

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From: [e-mail] (fstev)
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Subject: Re: Star Wars
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In article <3tvqu9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Fred Tepper ) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Fred Tepper )
>Subject: Re: Star Wars
>Date: 12 Jul 1995 06:43:21 GMT

>In <Pine.SV4.3.91.950710153918.5251C-100000@cello> Manuel Coats
><[e-mail]> writes:

>><snip>I don't know if this has been mentioned, but by releasing a
>>new updated version, he will peak interest in a LOT of younger viewers
>>who were not around or old enough when the original movies hit the
>>theatres.  This will make the next trilogy a very anticipated movie by
>>all viewers, young and old.
>>


>    I think it's insane to think that Star Wars needs new effects to
>draw an audience nowadays.  <SNIP>
>    Do you know anyone for whom the deciding factor in whether to see
>the re-release is whether or not it has new effects?  The added footage
>maybe, but not the new effects.
>    Hey, how about updating the effects in King Kong too while we're at
>it.  And hey, why not go in and add motion blur to all the Harryhausen
>films.

>                -=Fred=-


My sentiments exactly. It kind of makes me wonder if there's a
creativity problem at work or something. Why waste money/time
on re-doing a Classic, just because of as change in technology???

To take your King Kong example a step or two further, why not re-
paint the Mona Lisa, now that we have computer graphics?  [gag]
Haven't we seen enough of THOSE images yet?   ;)

There are FAR too many possibilities in the Star Wars universe
to waste time going back to retread the original. What a poor
decision. Sorry to hear it.

Wasn't it Darth Vader who said something like, "Don't be too PROUD
of this technological horror you've created..."?






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From: [e-mail] (fstev)
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Subject: Re: Center Object in Modeler shortcut?
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 16:37:52
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Thomas Healy) writes:
>Subject: Re: Center Object in Modeler shortcut?
>From: [e-mail] (Thomas Healy)
>Date: Sat, 15 Jul 95 22:37:09 PST

>In <[e-mail]>, Mark Harmon
><[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Is there a keyboard shortcut to center and object (Zero X,Y,Z) ?
>> >
>>
>> Hi Dan,  For a keyboard shortcut to center object use      a
>> that single letter should do the trick.
>>



>NO!   This does not center the object as he asked (Zero x,y,z), this just
>makes the object fit in all three views (Visually)


>Thomas



On the Amiga version of LW it's F1.





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From: [e-mail] (fstev)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] ("Phil South") writes:
>From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
>Subject: Re: 3DS --> Lightwave converter???
>Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:33:20 GMT

>>
>>   I am looking for a program that will convert between 3D Studio mesh
>> objects (even DXF) and Lightwave objects.  If you have one and/ or know
>> where I can get ahold of such a program PLEASE let me know.  Thanks
>>
>>  Ryan
>>

>If you're using Amiga then Interchange vy Syndesis is your man. If PC
>then the dxf2lw.exe program in the lwutils suite on tomahawk (in the
>/pub/LW/utils/ directory) will do the job very nicely.


What about Pixel3D Professional? I love it!






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 Does anybody know of any rendering tests results for amigas v p.c
using lightwave ?

 My current setup consists of a A1200 10 megs with a 33mhz co pro, and i
and very tempted to buy a p90 8 megs. The A4000 would be nice but i
think that it would have be a 060 to match the p90 performance. There
the p90 wins on price but the os is not very flexible and you cannot
run Dopus (yet)?
 Regarding the pc what is a practical amount of memory to run a pc to
prevent paging out. I asume a minimum of 16 megs is probably the
lowest. But after that of memory amount it all gets a bit too
expensive.
It seems to me that this subject is not tackled in the general computing
press, and when they touch on it the answers are usually biased by the
system they publish for. Or am i reading the wrong mags ?

cheers tris

-->EMail [e-mail]-----------------------------------------

 dREming~~~~~~~~~~~ i shall win the lottery and buy a sgi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Lightwave - Intel - Final?
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In article <3v4nsb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paolo Hutchison) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Paolo Hutchison)
>Subject: Lightwave - Intel - Final?
>Date: 26 Jul 1995 06:38:03 GMT

>I'm starting to do more and more 3D animations for businesses, etc. and
>my partner and I are trying to decide on a single platform to do most of
>our animation work, and at this point it's between 3D Studio (which I've
>used for a couple years now and know pretty well) and Lightwave 4.0.
>But it's hard to evaluate a product on a pre-release version.  So if
>someone could answer a few questions for me I'd be most appreciative!

>Will there be the ability to import file formats other than LWO and LWS,
>DXF, PRJ, 3DS, SCN, COB, etc?

>Will there be the ability to render to AVI's, FLC's, etc?

>Will there be better documentation?

>Is there any way to get a rendered picture on the screen other than
>turning on the view on render (small window) or just rendering to a file
>and then bringing that file up in a graphic viewing program?

Not in the pre-release, but I understand that will change in the final.  Can't
say how though cuz I don't know.  As a side note, on our Amiga we just render
directly to the PAR or the Toaster which is preferable for video work since
NTSC does its own nice things to computer images.  I'm not sure if this is
possible with a PAR on the PC, but it should be possible with the new
Perception.  That is more important to me than viewing on the PC screen
(though viewing on the PC is a good second choice.)

>Why are you limited to one view at a time in the Layout program?

Yes - unless I missed the feature somewhere.  Personally, I like it the way it
is, but I suppose it has a lot to do with what you get used to.

>Is there any way to render an object in the modeller?

None that I know of.  I think may be partly due to the fact that attributes
cannot be assigned in Modeler.  On the Amiga there is an import/export feature
that makes moving objects between the two modules pretty quick.  I miss that
feature on the PC version.  I wonder if DDE or even the clipboard can be put
to use to do something similar.  I have worked in Imagine which does let you
render in the modeler.  I found the feature only moderately useful there.  Of
course they may not have implemented it well there either.  It seemed to me
that placement and lighting affect things so much that I always preferred
rendering in the Stage module.  A quickshade render in Modeler would be nice
for basic integrity checks etc. though.

>Do you recommend any good books on LW4.0?

No.  Just LWPro magazine and VTU to a lesser extent.  Also there are some very
good tapes available.  Hope this helps.


_________________________________________________________________
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Bloomfield)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Polygon Problems
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Jul 95 22:14:00 GMT
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-> I've been messing with the old trick of Subdividing a Plane into
-> major polygons and then applying a displacement imagemap of a
-> topographical map to it.  Everything seems ok but when I render it, I
-> have "Gaps" of flipped polygons.  They are random about the object.
-> They apear to be flipped away from the camera.  I've saved the
-> transformed object, loaded it into modeler, and hit the old Align
-> button, but it still has the gaps.  This is a pretty high polygon
-> count object, so I know I'm not getting wierd effects from the
-> displacement map....I'm stumped as to what I can do.  Any ideas??
The simple answer is turn on double sided under the surface menu. If you
just can't live with the slightly longer render times you can flip the
individual polys one by one in Modeler(align never has worked worth a
hoot for me on any kind of complicated object) or take the object into a
program like Pixel Pro which does have a good align function.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Character Animation "plug-in" ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Jul 95 22:23:00 GMT
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-> Often when I've asked about character animation either here or on a
-> 3DS group I have been referred to Animation Master. I'm interested in
-> using Lightwave or 3Dstudio as a complement to Animation Master which
-> I use now, but wonder if LW is good enough for character anim on its
-> own, with IK etc. now, that's why I ask if people are doing char anim
-> with it.
Those of us at Gorilla Systems are using LW for character animation. We
have Animation Master, but gave up on it and went back to LightWave.
IMHO the lack of an undo for all the tools in AM was just inexcusable.
At any rate our "Alfred the Electronic Butler" was done in LightWave and
has been on both the NBC Nightly News and CNN, and we'll have a couple
more character animations entered in the Wavey awards. LW was also used
in our "Flip Out" video game for the Atari Jaguar which is very heavily
character animation based. So while we don't have all the bells and
whistles of the SGI programs it can be done.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lens Flare ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Jul 95 22:32:00 GMT
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-> > Turn off the cast shadows attribute of the dome lens while making
-> sure > the reflector has cast shadows turned on. Objects with cast
-> shadows > turned off will have lens flares shine through them even
-> when you have > fade behind object turned on, which is what you would
-> want in this case > rather than glow behind object which works
-> independent of shadow casting > options.
->
-> Presumably this would also work if you have a metal barn door type
-> lamp with a glass cover over the front of it?
It should if the glass cover is a seperate object with cast shadows
turned off.

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From: [e-mail] (Darren Eveland)
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            The Official Info Pack on the Amiga Convention '95

AMIGA CONVENTION '95  - THE LARGEST Amiga Show on the East Coast!
                        August 19 and 20th, Montreal, Canada

*NEW* Official Guests: Dale Larson and Peter Cherna! See details below.

*NEW* Official Show WWW site: http://www.phoque.info.uqam.ca/stargate

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     In August, in Montreal, the third annual Amiga Convention will take
place!  This convention will gather the Amiga community together from all
across the world to show its support for the Amiga!  We hope to make this
show the first event in the long fight to make the Amiga a well known
computer in North America again.


WHY:  We are putting on the Amiga Convention '95 (AC 95) to support our
      favorite computer, the Amiga!  We feel that for too long, the Amiga
      has been ignored, and now that the Amiga is owned by people who
      actually will support it well, we want to help them out in any way we
      can.  We also want to get a lot of people together to have a really
      cool time!


WHERE: A College Cafeteria in Montreal, large enough to hold over 1,000
       people, not including the surrounding rooms.

ADDRESS:  College du Vieux Montreal
          255, Ontario EAST (street)
          Montreal (Quebec)
          H2X 1X6
          Canada

WHEN   : 19th - 20th August 1995

TIME   : 8:00 - 20:00 (8:00 PM) Saturday
         8:00 - 20:00 (8:00 PM) Sunday

ENTRANCE COST: 7 Canadian dollars

SHOW FEATURES:

KEYNOTE SPEECH: The Future of the Amiga (by Dale Larson)

*NEW* OFFICIAL GUESTS:

Former C= Engineer Dale Larson, Amiga Networking specialist, now
President of Intangible Assets Manufacturing, and author of Connect
Your Amiga.  Dale will be giving a speech on Amiga Networking.

Former C= Engineer Peter Cherna, Montreal native and Amiga Intuition programming
expert.  Peter will share his views on the current state of the amiga and give
some tips on programming the Amiga and its future.


COMPETITIONS:

Gfx (3d)
--------
1st place : $300
2nd place : $200
3rd place : $100

Music (mod 4 chan.)
-----------------
1st place : $300
2nd place : $200
3rd place : $100

Intro (64k max.)
----------------
1st place : $400
2nd place : $250
3rd place : $150

Demo (2 megs max.)
-------------
1st place : $800
2nd place : $500
3rd place : $300


* Special Award ceremonies to give out a special prizes for the persons
  who create some amazing things with Amiga Computers! (to encourage
  some developers that are doing crazy thing with the amiga!)

Dealers/Developers on list already!
-----------------------------------

We are currently talking to AMIGA TECHNOLOGIES, the new subsidiary of Escom,
to see if they will attend.  It will be announced later whether they are
coming or not.

RCS Management     : Makers of the X-Calibur and Fusion-Forty.

GfxBase Electronics: A local computer store chain.

Wonder Computers   : Owners of 4 stores in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal, London.
                     The biggest Canadian Amiga retailer.

PreSpect Technics  : Importers/dealers/Developers of hardware products!

Spectrum GFX       : A video production company headed by the programmer of
                     Composite Studio Pro.

Ultred Visions Inc.:  Developers of a CD32-based plug-and-play Internet
                      access set-top box.

Amiga Link         : The online Amiga magazine!

Phantom Development: Software Developers (Quill and other projects on
                     its way).

Noahjis Canadian
Representative     : Distributor of Macrosystem hardware
                     (Warp Engine, V-LAB, VLAB-MOTION).

Better Concepts    : One of the largest New York amiga resellers
             and mail-order houses.

Dark Unicorn
Productions        : Developer of some very popular PD/Shareware
                     games (such as Scorche Tank, Tomcat(1st game
                     using FMV) and many more coming!).

Moebius
Technologies       : Software developers (a new co. base in Montreal
                     devoted for Amiga development, look for some products
                     coming soon!).

Oby's Amiga
Computing Shop     : A great Amiga Store from Ontario!

COST FOR RENTING TABLES : $100 - 1 day,  $150 - 2 days, for one table of
                          4' by 3' and chairs.
                          You may do whatever you want to at the rented
                          tables.  These tables are aimed towards dealers
                          and developers.

FREE TABLES:  We will also have free tables at AC'95 for anyone who wishes
              to bring their Amiga, whether to show off something cool, or
              just to help someone else who might need one at the time.
              However, at the free tables you get less space than the pay
              tables, it is first-come first-serve, and you cannot sell
              products at the tables!  That is strictly for the rented
              tables.


ACCESSIBILITY:  The show is easily accessible by bus and train, as well as
               having lots of parking space in the vicinity for cars.

WHY DEALERS SHOULD COME:  At AC'95, we offer tables at an incredibly cheap
                          price, a price which includes electrical outlets.
                          You also get the chance to show and sell your
                          wares to a crowd of Amiga owners, all of whom
                          have money to spend and are influenced by how big
                          a presence you have at the show.

WHY PEOPLE SHOULD COME:   AC'95 will have stands from many major dealers
                          and developers.  It will also have a lot of
                          friendly Amiga owners there, plus a booming sound
                          system and TV setup that will show crazy demos
                          and products.  It will be a wild good time for
                          all!


* Just 5 minutes walking distance from the Metro Station BERRI-UQAM as
  well as for the BUS terminals of VOYAGEUR, GREYHOUND, etc.

* Interior parking space for up to 200 cars at $5 Canadian a day.

* We will have Audio/visual equipment setup for presentations of demos,
  programs, hardware, new products, etc.  The audio equipment runs at an
  incredible 5000W!!

* The Student-Cafe will be open during the events selling food like
  sandwiches, soups, coffee and other fast food items.

CONTACT:

     If you want to buy a table, get more information on the show, or just
talk to the organizers, e-mail either <[e-mail]> or
<[e-mail]>, or call 514-649-9756 (in Canada) and ask for Frederic
Tessier regarding the Amiga Convention '95.  You can also mail the
organizers at:

     Frederic Tessier
     922 Deschamps
     Sainte-Julie (Quebec)
     J3E 1N9
     Canada

Show WWW site: http://www.phoque.info.uqam.ca/stargate


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|"Don't jump on the bandwagon, because it's headed over the cliff."      |
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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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Subject: SPACE animators speaking in Sunnyvale
Date: 26 Jul 1995 18:22:31 -0400
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Animators Ken Stranahan, Lee Stranahan and Scott Wheeler will be dicussing
their work on the upcoming Fox-TV series Space : Above and Beyond at the
Video Toaster Users Group Meeting, 7:00 pm Thursday, July 27th (ie. REAL
soon).  The meeting is at HT Electronics, 275 N. Mathilda, in Sunnyvale.
For more info call Andrew at 408.244.9692.

Space : A&B is a new show created by the executive producers of the
X-Files. It's an adventure series, and features a whole mess 'o visual FX,
including a large number of (LightWave 3D created) CGI battle shots and
dog fights. Scott, Ken, and Lee are all with Area 51 visual FX, the
effects house responsible for the show. They will be showing video and
discussing their work on the show.


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan


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From: [e-mail] (fstev)
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Subject: Topographical [contour] maps to 3D model?
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Does anyone know of a program that runs on the PC or MAC that
will convert topographical (contour) maps into 3D objects?
Particularly AutoCAD DXF, 3D Studio, or other object file format
that can be translated into LWOB [lightwave object] via Pixel3D
or Interchange.

Thanks in advance!

{Please reply via email.}


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From: [e-mail] (kanep)
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Subject: Re: YES! Finally I'm running PhotoShop on my Amiga!
Date: 27 Jul 1995 06:28:12 GMT
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>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rotor)

>[]>  PhotoShop is the most incredible image manipulation software! (Not
>batch processing like
>[]>ADPro though :( )  Between PhotoShop and Fractal Design Painter there's
>narry a texture you
>[]>can't create!  I also just ordered FD Poser, a utility that lets you
>position Human figures
>[]>easily to create 'poses'- It's my hope that, as it exports DFX files, I
>can use the poses as
>[]>morph targets to move human figures in LW!

>Dude... you OBVIOUSLY want all of the Mac applications, why not swallow it
>and buy a Mac?  Use your Amiga as your 3D workstation only!  Go to a REAL
>Mac for REAL 2D functionality.

With 'Shapeshifer' or 'Emplant', you basically have a REAL Mac.  They both use
real Mac ROMs, my Emplant even has the Appletalk connectors for networking,
and a SCSI port for CD-Roms and scanners, etc.  I have an Emplant in my A4000
system, and for the couple of hundred it cost, I have a emulated Mac that is
95% the speed of a 25mhz 68040 speed Macintosh (not bad for multitasking the
MacOS on my Amiga!).  Anyways, sure that not the speed of a PowerMac (unless
that PowerMac is running 68K code [then I might be faster])  But I don't think
that anyone who has gotten one of these lastest generation Mac emulators for
the Amiga can be disappointed.  From a software standpoint, there is very
little that a real Mac offers, that Emplant/ShapeShifer cannot do.

If fact, Emplant/ShapeShifer, give you a few abilities that you don't have
on a Mac.  How about a Mac with a NTSC compatiable display (heck, genlock it
on your Toaster!)  Easy file transfer between a Mac and Amiga (great for
sending Lightware frames back and forth!)  The ability to buy ONE accelerator
card that will make both your Amiga and Mac faster! Or buying 16 megs of RAM
that both your Amiga and Mac can use.

>Bill Leonard
>[e-mail]
>_________________________________________________________________________
>                               cyber.lab g.f.x.
>  3D Animation * Modeling * Special Effects * Station ID Packages *

>                                 407.425.5722
>                  http://www.magicnet.net/~bill_l/top.html
>_________________________________________________________________________



        Kane            --------------------------------------------
        Peterson       -- "Kane's World" World Wide Web Home Page: --
                       --      http://www.mcs.net/~kanep/www/      --
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From: [e-mail] (robert hood)
Subject: Ok, now I'm depressed...
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Well, I just had to turn down an interview with DreamWorks in
LA.  The reason?  Purely principles:  I don't want to move to LA.  Yet,
thar be the industry (currently).  I just don't think it's worth
subjecting my wife and kids to that place just to consider a position
there.  Were I single, there wouldn't have been a question.

Anyway, to try to pull myself out of my depression, I'd like to
put together a group of people in the Denver/Metro/Suburb area
that are into LightWave.  I'd like this group to be more than a
simple user's group, but less than a real company.  I want to do
serious animation, learn and teach.

If this sounds like fun to you, contact me (see my tag line).
Needless to say, you need to own a copy of LightWave (platform
doesn't matter), and a burning passion for computer animation.
I'm looking for all talent/skill levels (I'm an intermediate beginner).

Who knows, perhaps we can really create something and show Hollywood
that LA isn't the only place where it's "happenin'"... =|^)

Regards,                      |||
Bob                         ^(===)^
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                    | unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world
Work: 303-730-1324  | to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the
Home: 303-980-8392  | unreasonable man.    -- George Bernard Shaw
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From: "David R. Stromberger" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Getting Lightwave 4.0
Date: 26 Jul 1995 02:39:25 GMT
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I just talked to Newtek today about upgrading my 3.5 Ligtwave to
4.0(Intel NT), and they told me that they wouldn't be shipping for
another 4 to 6 weeks!

Now, I realize that the FINAL 4.0 is not yet released, but I thought that
I could still get this beta version. What's the deal?  I don't have an
Amiga, so this 3.5 standalone version just sits here. Thats no fun at
all... maybe I could just PRETEND to make cool stuff in Lightwave?

L8R


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Howard)
Subject: Black Polys/Holes Tip
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Don't recall ever seeing this technique for hunting down "missing" polys
in a render, so here goes:

Start out with the same rendered image you would use to create a
reference map for making surface maps (100% luminous white object, flat
camera view, etc).

Load this image into modeler's BG Image, autosize to the object, and
invert the BG image...black object on a clear background.

The poly lines show up very well and so do the holes where those flipped
or missing polygons rendered.

Zero in on whatever gaps you see in the BG image, and they will be
outlined by the vertices of the offending poly.

...has never failed me yet.

Jeff


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From: [e-mail] (PMshark)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: FINALLY!!! NewTek adds are elsewhere!!!
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Yes, yahoo.  And I think I also saw a NewTek ad in Digital Video. It's
good for them to get into other magazines and start reaching more of the
masses.
PJ
[e-mail]
Visual Designer

"Look and you will find it--what is unsought will go undetected"
SOPHOCLES

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From: [e-mail] (V Teahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Perception and Audio News Flash
Date: 26 Jul 1995 09:59:16 GMT
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Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: OK, I guess you guys don't get audio cards...let me explain this...

: A $300 SB AWE 32 is not the same thing as this card, which handles (so it
: seems) multiple (sounds like 8, in 4 stereo pairs) tracks of audio. I'm
: about to buy an 8 track audio recorder called Session 8 - it's $3150,
: street price. So the DPS board is cheaper.

: And you NOT be forced to use this board to get get audio from Perception -
: you COULD use cheap boards....so the 'NewTek approved drive' thing doens't
: apply...

: _____________________________________________
: Lee Stranahan

Of course we should have guessed..... Your from AOL...

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From: [e-mail] (V Teahan)
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Subject: Gate to the minds Eye..
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Hi,

    Has anybody seen the video Gate to the Mind Eye. I must say it is
extremely good. Can some one who knows about it tell me if Quantum
Mechanic was done in LightWave SGI or even Amiga. I wonder because its is
very lightwaveish (LIghtwave Does have a certain look, as good as it
maybe though..) Did they use LightWave...

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From: [e-mail] (PMshark)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: What contest was that?
Date: 26 Jul 1995 21:27:12 -0400
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I was reading my July VTU mag and I saw a reference to a contest having
something to do with Star Wars that was referenced to an article written
by Mojo in June's issue. Unfortunately, I lost my June VTU and now my
curiosity is killing me.  Can someone please tell me what this contest is
for, etc.?

Thanks.
PJ
[e-mail]
Visual Designer

"Look and you will find it--what is unsought will go undetected"
SOPHOCLES

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From: [e-mail] (PMshark)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Clouds
Date: 26 Jul 1995 21:27:25 -0400
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What's the best way to simulate realistic clouds in LW? Would creating a
mass of points in modeler be the best way to go? And if so, is there a
right way to randomize the points to get the desired whispy cloud effect?

PJ
[e-mail]
Visual Designer

"Look and you will find it--what is unsought will go undetected"
SOPHOCLES

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From: [e-mail] (Alan Latteri)
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Subject: Re: Ok, now I'm depressed...
Date: 27 Jul 1995 13:55:24 GMT
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You made a big mistake.

--
LamerCon Labs
"Where your idea is out next product."

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From: [e-mail] (Mason Lyte)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: DIGITAL SITE show is here!
Date: 27 Jul 1995 16:21:42 GMT
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Dear DIGITAL SITE show enthusiast- Please forward this message
with all dispatch to interested parties.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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         a r t  /   c o m p u t e r   i n t e r f a c e

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               2 0  J u l y  -  2  S e p t  1 9 9 5

                   @  S I T E  G A L L E R Y
           719 West 7th Street between Hope and Figuroa
                      downtown LOS ANGELES

              Reception:  Sunday 6 August 1 - 5 pm PDT

    Event website throughout the show >
                          http://sensemedia.net/digitalsite

       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       DIGITAL SITE will feature a survey of a number of
nationally acclaimed Southern California digital fine
artists working in various computer mediated forms- prints,
animations, video and interactive works.

 Victor Acevedo      Paras Kaul           Frank Rosazy
 Nancy Buchanan      Louise Krasniewicz   Lothar Schmitz
 Donna Geib          Tony Longson         Nathan Singer
 David Glynn         Robert Lowden        Howard Smith
 Ken Goldberg        Mason Lyte           Robin Valle
 Jane Gottlieb       Michael Masucci      Short Vassalli
 Jeanne J L'Heureux  Kamran Moojedi       Trici Venola
 Diane Holland       Franklin Odel        Victoria Vesna
 Mary Hughes         Ron Owenbey          Michael Wright
 Michael Johnson     Laurel Paley          and others.....

       DIGITAL SITE has been designated as an official
"Satellite Exhibition" of the national ACM/SIGGRAPH 95 con-
ference. The gallery is located in the historic Roosevelt
building with close proximity to the convention center.
Conference attendees can walk or taxi to the gallery. In
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HOW TO STOP HAIR LOSS and REGROW HAIR (condensed)**
1995 Infonet communication Inc. (inquiry: [e-mail])
by Mary Sheen, MD

Part 1  Introduction
Hair plays a significant role in our life. Another person's hair is one of the first characteristics we
notice upon meeting. Our own hair is one of the first and last things we attend to before a meeting
or a social engagement. Hair disorder, especially when severe, often profoundly affects the lives of
those afflicted. Severe hair loss evokes not only cosmetic concerns but may also evoke feelings of
vulnerability (nakedness), loss of self-esteem, alterations in self-image, and, perhaps, even self-
identity.

In 1992, researchers at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, surveyed 145 men, and found
that 84 percent of the balding men were preoccupied with their loss. They described themselves
as filled with self-consciousness, helplessness, and envy of men with full heads of hair. Single men
and woman who had begun losing hair in their early twenties were more likely to suffer from
extremely low self-esteem.

While stressful, balding isn't the end of the world. Although the men reported glancing in the
mirror constantly and wearing hats even in warm weather, they manage to make it through their
daily lives without much problem. For some it even sparked self-improvement tactics like fiddling
with hair styles, working out more, and dressing better. Servey result is shown in the following
chart.
How deep does a bald man's anxiety runs?
    Reported                     extent of hair los
    experience                      low        high
    Notice bald/balding men            54%        82%
    spend time looking in mirror at hair        54        69
    Feel self-conscious                42        78
    Look older than actual age            40        55
    Worry that others will notice            39        56
    worry about aging                37        46
    Feel less attractive                31        51
    Envy good-looking men                33        34
    Try to improve hair style            63        66
    Try to improve physique            41        36
    dress nicer                    26        45
    Wear hats or caps                23        41
    Seek reassurance about looks            23        39
    Grow a beard or a mustache            18        36

Stereotypes associated with baldness are not flattering. A research back in 1971( reference)  had
been conducted to investigate how one person was perceived by others can be influenced by
quantity of scalp hair (regular, balding, and bald) as well as color, length, and quality of scalp hair.
Pictures of the same person were presented to 60 judges. Differences in appearances of this
person (ie, experimental conditions of regular, balding, and bald) were manipulated through
modifications made by a commerical artist. The results revealed that the person with a regular
quantity of hair was rated as most handsome, virile, strong, active, and sharp. The person with a
balding head of hair was rated as least potent, weak, dull, and inactive, and the person with a bald
head of  hair was rated as most unkind, bad, and ugly.  Many other studies also show employment
discrimination based on a person's appearance (ref )

Motivation to avoid baldness is not confined to this century. In 1150 BC Egyptian men smear their
pates with fats from ibex, lions, crocodiles, serpents, geese, and hippopotamuses. In modern
society, this aversion is readily evident from the many available remedies such as creams,
hormones, vitamins, hairpieces, wigs, scalp reduction and hair transplants. A government report in
1983 reveals that over the past 9 years the FDA has overseen the investigation of ingrediets in
about 300,000 products claimed to help hair regrowth, none of them has any medical benefit, of
course.

The goal of  this book is to provide comprehensive information on how to cope with baldness.
From this book, you will learn how to preserve what you've got, restore what you haven't, or live
happily with your follocular deficit.

Part 2   Get to Know Your Hair
The amount of hair and where it grows vary with different mammals.  The entire body of the dog,
the sheep, the cow, and the horse is covered with a hairy coat. The whale and the hippopotamus
have only a few hairs. In humans, hair is not found on palms of the hands or the soles of the feet.
The coloration and pattern of coats in animals serve both as a camouflage for protection against
enemies and as an allurement to mates. Fine and transparent, human hair is a vestige of our
hairier animal forbears, that probably evolved from the scales of reptiles.  The adult human body
averages five million hairs, of which 100,000 to 150,000 are on the scalp.

Hair is composed of keratin, the same protein that makes up nails and the outer layer of our skin.
The part seen rising out of the skin is called hair shaft or strand. Each strand consist of three
layers. The outermost protective layer (cuticle) is thin and colorless. The middle layer, or cortex , is
the thicknest. It provides strength,  determines your hair color and whether your hair is straight or
curly.

Hair color is determined by melanin from your pigment cells. The more pigment granules there
are, and the more tightly packed, the darker the hair.  Two kinds of melanin contribute to hair
color.  Eumelanin colors hair brown to black, and an iron-rich pigment, pheomelanin colors it
yellow-blonde to red.  Whether hair is mousy, brown, brunette or black depends on the type and
amount of melanin and how densely it's distributed within the hair.  For example, deep-black
African hair contains closely packed melanin in the cortex, a few in the cuticle.  Very dark
European hair, quite apart from having more melanin granules than lighter or blonde hair, has
more melanin per granule. When pigment-producing cells cease to  function, the result is the
uncolored white or gray hair.

Scalp hair varies tremendously between races, between individuals of same race, and even within
an individual. Mongolians have straight hair simply because their scalp hair has the greatest
thickness and the roundest cross-section. In Caucasians the hair is more elliptical and slender; in
Negroes it is flattened, resulting in kinky curls. Mongolians, both male and female, have much less
public, axillary, facial, and body hair than Caucasians. In Caucasians, true blonds typically have
more hair (about 140,000 hair) than brunette (about 105,000) or redhead (about 90,000).

Below your skin is the hair root which is enclosed by a sack-like structure called the hair follicle.
Tiny blood vessels at the base of the follicle provide nourishment. A nearby gland secretes a
mixture of fats (called sebum) which keep the hair shiny and waterproof to some extent. Secretions
from some sweat glands also produce a characteristic odor. A dog can differentiate a human being
by the typical scent secreted by these glands. Two sets of glands discharge secretions through the
skin.  while sebaceous, or oil, glands arise from the walls of hair follicles and produce an oil
called sebum that lubricates the skin and hair, Sweat glands, embedded in the subcutaneous
layer, are scattered over the body, particularly in the palms and soles. Sweat glands produce
moisture called perspiration that reaches the skin's surface through the pores and evaporates to
cool the body.

At the base of the follicle is the papilla, which is the "hair manufacturing plant."  The papilla is fed
by the blood-stream which carries nourishment to produce new hair. Male hormones or androgens
regulate hair growth.  Pubic and axillary (armpit) hair are particularly androgen-sensitive and grow
at lower androgen levels than hair on the chest or legs.  In boys, most pubic hair is grown by age
15, followed by the development of armpit hair two to three years later.  In girls, too, an increase in
androgens at puberty triggers growth of pubic and armpit hair.  Scalp hair, not directly androgen-
responsive, is influenced by local amounts of a testosterone derivative, dihydrotestosterone.

Hair follicles initially form in utero.  No new follicles are created after birth, and none are lost in
adult life. The first hair to be produced by the fetal hair follicles is Lanugo hair, which is fine, soft,
and unpigmented. This is usually shed in about the eighth month of gestation.
The first postnatal hair is vellus hair, which is fine, soft, usually unpigmented, and seldom more
than 2 cm long. Vellus hair remains on the so-called hairless regions of the body, such as the
forehead and balding scalp.
At puberty, the vellus hair in some areas is replaced by terminal hair, which is longer, coarser, and
pigmented. Growth starts in the pubic region; then the eyelashes and eyebrows become thicker.
Axillary hair and male facial hair appear about two years after growth of pubic hair begins. Body
hair continues to develop long after puberty, stimulated by male hormones that paradoxically, also
cause terminal hair to be replaced by vellus hair when balding begins.

Scalp hair fibers grow from 100,000 to 350,000 follicles which are reported to occupy the human
scalp; however, not all the follicles are productive.[1] In each producing follicle, the duration of the
hair's life cycle is influenced by age, pathology and a wide variety of physiological factors.[1,2] The
life cycle is divided into the anagen (active), catagen (transitional) and telogen (resting) phases.

The anagen phase is the period of active hair growth where protein synthesis and keratinization
are continuously occurring. In normal subjects, this phase lasts for up to five years, although
longer durations have been documented.

The cessation of the anagen phase is characterized by a transitory phase known as catagen. This
phase lasts for two to three weeks.

Following the catagen phase, the hair enters the telogen or "resting" phase. In normal subjects,
telogen hair is retained within the scalp for up to 12 weeks before the emerging new hair dislodges
it from its follicle.

During the anagen phase, protein s thesis is the main distinction of the hair bulb. In the telogen
phase, the dermal papilla undergoes renewal. It is at this time that structural characteristics can be
modified. The new hair should be identical to its predecessor, but with advancing age, and in
some pathological states, a strict copy is not maintained. In these circumstances, the hair may
become finer and shorter, modifying the esthetic profile. Since these effects occur over several hair
cycles, years may elapse before the affected individual recognizes the difference.

Like skin cells, hair grows and is shed regularly.   Shedding anywhere from 50 to 100 hairs per
day is considered normal. The average rate of growth is about 1/2 inch a month.  It is now known
that hair grows fastest in the summer, slowest in the winter, speeds up under heat and friction, but
slows down when exposed to cold. Hair grows the best between the ages of 15 to 30. But, hair
growth begins to wind down sometime between the ages of 40 and 50. Progressive hair loss
begins naturally in both sex about age 50, accelerating in the 70s. About 40 percent of Caucasian
men lose hair to some extent by age 35.

What cause hair loss? can we do something about it? we will discuss these matters upcoming
chapters.

Hair Loss, Men and Women

Androgenic alopecia
By far the most common form of hair loss is determined by our genes and hormones: Also known
as androgen-dependent, androgenic, or genetic hair loss. It  is the largest single type of
recognizable alopecia to affect both men and women. It is estimated that around 30% of
Caucasian females are affected before menopause. Other commonly used names for genetic hair
loss include common baldness, diffuse hair loss, male or female pattern baldness.

1. Male Pattern Baldness (MPB)

Signs and Symptoms

* Receding hairline
* Moderate to extensive loss of hair, especially on the crown

2. Female pattern Baldness (FPB)

Signs and Symptoms

* General thinning of hair all over the head
* Moderate loss of hair on the crown or at hairline

MPB is the hair loss most frequently encountered. It usually starts with the hair at the temples,
which gradually recedes to form an "M" shape.  You also may find your hair is finer and does not
grow as long as it once did. The hair on the crown of your head begins to thin out and eventually at
the top points of the "M" meet the thinned spot on your crown. Over time, you are left with a horse-
shoe pattern of hair around the sides of your head. Any remaining hair in the balding areas usually
manifests some miniaturization - it is thinner and grows at a below-normal rate, changing from
long, thick, coarse, pigmented hair into fine, unpigmented sprouts.

Female pattern baldness usually begins about age 30, becomes noticeable around age 40, and
may be even more noticeable after menopause.  Female hair loss is usually an overall thinning--
two hairs where five used to be--rather than a bald area on top of the head, though women may
have a receding hairline, too.  It's thought that about 20 million American women have such hair
loss.  As in males, hair follicles simply shut down, with hormones playing some role in the process.

The mechanism of balding

The rate of hair shedding in androgenic alopecia is speeded up by three forces: advancing age, an
inherited tendency to bald early, and an over-abundance of the male hormone dihydrotestosterone
(DHT) within the hair follicle.  DHT is a highly active form of testosterone, which influences many
aspects of manly behavior, from sex drive to aggression. The conversion from testosterone to DHT
is driven by an enzyme called 5-alpha reductase, which is produced in the prostate, various
adrenal glands, and the scalp. Over time, the action of DHT causes the hair follicle to degrade and
shortens the anagen phase. Thought the follicle is technically still alive and connected to a good
blood supply--it can successfully nurture a transplanted follicle which is immune to the effects  of
DHT--it will grow smaller and smaller (figure 3). Some follicles will gradually die, but most will
simply shrink to the size they were when you were born which produce weaker hairs. With a
steadily shorter anagen growing cycle, more hairs are shed, the hairs becoming thinner and
thinner until they are too fine to survive daily wear and tear.  Balding hair gradually changes from
long, thick, coarse, pigmented hair into fine, unpigmented vellus sprouts.

However, the sebaceous gland attached to it remains the same size.  As the hair shafts become
smaller, the gland continues to pump out about the same amount of oil.  So as your hair thins, you
will notice that your hair becomes flatter and oilier.

Other physiological factors might cause hair loss. Recently, a group of Japanese researcher
reported a correlation between excessive sebum in the scalp and hair loss. Excessive sebum often
accompanying thinning hair is attributed to an enlargement of the sebaceous gland. They believed
excessive sebum causes an high level of 5-alpha reductase and pore clogging, thus malnutrition
of the hair root.

Although this condition could be hereditary, they believe diet is a more prominent cause. The
researchers note that Japanese hair was thick and healthy, with a small gland and little scalp oil,
until the occidental habit of consuming animal fat crept into their diet after World War II. This
change has led to a significant height increase in the Japanese population, but it has also resulted
in more Japanese men losing hair. To some extent, their observation makes  sense since
problems with greasy hair have often been noted as much as six months to a year prior to when
thinning hair becomes noticeable, but this might be just one of the symptons, not underlying
cause, more research is needed. Most doctors agree  that  If you have a oily scalp with thinning
hair, frequent shampooing is advised. shampooing can reduce surface sebum, which contains
high levels of testosterone and DHT that may reenter the skin and affect the hair follicle.


Treatment for Male Pattern Baldness
Balding men and women seem to go to almost any lengths to regrow thinning hair. Until now,
inherited balding in either sex has not responded well to any anti-balding stimulants, applications,
injections, or other treatments.  Specific foods or vitamins don't regrow hair -- although good
nutrition is essential for healthy hair.

Antiandrogen Therapy

In the United Kingdom, the most commonly used anti-androgen for women is CPA (cyproterone
acetate) in combination with ethinyl-estradiol. In the United States, where CPA is not available, the
aldosterone antagonist spironolactone has been given in dosages from 75 to 100 mg per day with
some benefit. However, higher doses (150 to 200 mg per day) appear necessary to produce a
significant increase in cosmetically useful hair, as occurs with CPA therapy.

Anti-androgen treatment must be continued for at least 12 months. Often two years is required
before a subjective improvement is observed.

Complete reversal of the hair loss can never be achieved unless treatment is instigated within two
years of its onset. This is probably due to the atrophy of the miniaturized hair follicles with time.
The degree of benefit observed is dependent upon the subject's age and the duration of alopecia;
however, most patients are satisfied with the thought that no further hair loss will occur. Some
improvement in hair  quality should be expected in all cases, although withdrawal of therapy
results in further progression of the alopecia.

Nonhormonal aspects are critical to ensure an optimal therapeutic response is achieved. And, the
need to maintain vitamin and serum ferritin levels above values previously thought adequate has
recently been demonstrated.

The side effects of oral CPA therapy in combination with ethinyl-estradiol are well documented and
are similar to those associated with other oral contraceptive regimens. Spironolactone disrupts the
menstrual cycle and increases menstrual bleeding in some patients; but, in general, it is well
tolerated.

To understand how these hormonal remedies work, you need to know a little science. DHT is one
of several male hormones, called androgens, that compete for a berth on the hair follicle's receptor
sites.  In principle, if you could keep the receptor busy metabolizing other hormones, like
progesterone, DHT would never have a chance to move in and start shrinking the follicle. The
researched based on this concept have made little progress over the past decade. The biggest
hurdle: to limit the effects of the androgen blocker to the scalp only. If DHT is blocked at other sites
around the body, a male will lose his sex drive and develop a vocal delivery that resembles a
teenage girl's. Blocking the activities of DHT in female who have hair loss is, of course, less
problematic. Spironolactone or Aldactone  does just that, and very effectively.

Rogaine

By far the most publicized medical treatment available for male pattern baldness is minoxidil
(Rogaine). The idea of using minoxidil topically to grow hair was serendipitous. This drug was
originally developed to treat high blood pressure and had the unanticipated side effect of
stimulating hair growth, sometimes in unwanted areas. This observation led to the testing of
topical minoxidil on balding areas of the scalp. Since its introduction in 1988, Upjohn, the
manufacturer, sells about $150 million worth of the drug each year, even though its ability to grow
back hair is, at best, modest.

A large-scale clinical trial involved over 2,300 participants with male pattern baldness
 was carried out by having 1,547 patients apply 1 ml of 2% or 3% minoxidil and 779 patients apply
1 ml of placebo ( no active ingradients, only alcohol and propylene glycol) twice a day to the
balding area. Actual counts of vellus hairs, indeterminate hairs, and terminal hairs in an one-inch
patch were made before and after treatment.  At 4 months, 5% to 8% of patients had moderate to
marked hair growth on the balding vertex of the scalp. This figure is statistically no different from
the number of men who regrow hair in response to a plcaebo. another 15% to 20% of patients had
some growth of vellus hair on the balding area.  At 12 months, 39% of patients had moderate to
marked hair growth, while 11% of those using placebo reported an increase in hair growth. This
result shows that you to used minoxidil for more than 4 months in order to decide whether this
treatment works for you.

Who is the best candidate for this drug? research showed that you have to be:

1) young man (20 to 30 years old), who only recently (within 5 years) had begun to bald
2) not completely bald, and
3) not bald at the temples

This drug works best on small areas of vertex baldness (smaller than 1 square inch).
There is no evidence that topical minoxidil could regenerate hair on the receding temple area.
Topical minoxidil was as effective at a concentration of 2% as at 3%. A 1% formulation was less
effective.

Successful treatment, however, does require a lifetime commitment. The topical solution must be
applied to the balding area twice a day, every day. Decreasing the dosage to once a day results in
some hair loss, and discontinuing application causes  regression to pretreatment baldness within
3 to 6 weeks. The cost?  Anywhere between $600 to $1,000 a year, depending on the size of the
area to be treated.

Why minoxidil works remain a mystery. It is know  to be a powerful vasodilator, but other drugs the
dilate blood vessels do not promote hair growth. It is postulated that it delays or prevents  some
follicles' entry into the next anagen phase for long periods of time and stimulate these follicles back
into active production.  But this theory remains to be vindicated.

The disadvantages of minoxidil are: 1) lifetime commitment; 2) high cost : It is not covered by
health insurance schemes as it's considered a cosmetic; 3)Its side effects;  including itching and
prickling, headaches (in 40 per cent), dizzy spells and, in some, heartbeat irregularities. Although
apparently safe when rubbed into the scalp - since little is absorbed into the bloodstream - it is a
vasodilator and not recommended for anyone with heart trouble. Its safety in men over age 49 and
its long-term safety remain unknown. Some scientists believe that minoxidil is more effective in
preventing hair loss than in promoting regrowth, but no controlled trials are available.

At the time of writing this book, the only away you can obtain rogaine is through a doctor's
prescription. That could be changed soon. Upjohn is confident it will obtain FDA approval to take
the drug over the counter.

Meanwhile, researchers are working on ways to make minoxidil work better and are also exploring
other avenues.

Increasing the concentration of minoxidil from its prescribed 2 percent concentration to 5 percent
in some cases has produced a 10 percent increase in hair growth.  Enhancing the drug with
Retin-A also has improved hair growth in some experiments.  You can't find these solutions in U.S.
pharmacies (they are available in Europe), but some dermatologists over here can have
pharmacists prepare these mixtures.
Check around.

Other proposed nonsurgical baldness remedies

One anti-androgenic drug now being tried as a baldness remedy is oral finasteride. It inhibits the
5-alpha reductase (enzyme) that transforms testosterone into the dihydrotestosterone (DHT) form
responsible for hair loss. Blocking the action of DHT seems to stimulate growth of stronger, thicker
and more pigmented hair. In one multicentre study, 200 males aged 18 to 35 with distinct
baldness had a one-inch circle of scalp shaved and periodically examined for hair growth. The
report states that "men taking 5 mg per day of oral finasteride had significantly increased hair
growth. Side effects - such as impotence, loss of libido and reduced sperm counts - were not
widespread, and often decreased with time, affecting about three per cent of the sample." Ideal
candidates for finasteride treatment are men who have already
fathered all the children they wish, as its use for baldness might be lifelong and it could harm any
fetus conceived (while taking it). Further studies are needed to assess the drug's efficacy, dosage
and long-term safety. Another dihydrotestosterone-inhibitor now being tested is a derivative of
hyaluronic acid, the chemical at the tip of sperm that aids penetration of the egg's membrane.
Massaged into the scalp, this substance apparently blocks the androgenic action that causes hair
loss, but more research is needed.

Medical researchers in Asia believe that hair loss is caused mainly by  insufficient blood supply to
the scalp. The other possibility is excessive  sebum in the scalp which causes pore clogging and
malnutrition in the hair root( "sebaceous Gland Hypothesis", proposed by Dr. Yoshikata Inaba of
The Inaba Aesthetic Surgery in Tokyo).  The so-called 101 hair regrowth  lotion is formulated to
attack the problems. 101 became famous after it had won several international awards, among
them, "gold medal" from 14th  International Inventors Exposition in New York (June 4, 1991).
According to Dr. Zhuang-Guang Zhao, the inventor, 101 promotes blood circulation by  removing
blood stasis in the scalp and dilating the blood capillaries, it  also remove sebum in the scalp.
Unlike other  treatments, it has no side effects, the  active compounds in this lotion are isolated
from plants,  According to Newsweek and New York Times reports (references at page 48),  there
is no questioning its popularity with the 3 million bald folks in Japan. Masashi Sada, a popular
Japanese singer, said recently on the radio
that the product worked wonders on his head. Millions of men and women in  Asia reportedly have
used 101 and 90 percent are said to have found it  effective in hair regrowth and a significant
reduction of hair loss. According to a spokesperson for the 101 products the improved formula
called Fabao 101D will be introduced to USA this year. But will 101D work on American heads?
(Interested reader can obtain a copy of brochure
by writting to: Pan State Health Products, Division of Hair Care, 155-21 Cherry Ave, Flushing, NY
11355, or e-mail: [e-mail])

Other types of  Hair Loss and treatments
Alopecia Areata
Sudden hair loss most commonly is due to alopecia areata, a condition that occurs in  2% of the
population and affects all races and bothsexes equally. Alopecia areata starts abruptly with one or
more circular  patches of hair loss, up to 3 inches across, that may overlap, these bald patches
normally occur on the scalp but occasionally elsewhere on the body, such as the beard or the
eyebrows. The bald areas are smooth and painless.

Alopecia areata is thought to be an autoimmune disease and strongly associated with vitiligo and
diabetes. Patients with Down syndrome are especially prone to the disease.

In 90% of the cases, the hair grows back within 6 to 24 months. The outcome is worse if the
episode occurs early in life or if you lose all scalp hair in a single episode.

To diagnose alopecia areata, your doctor will perform a complete medical history and examination.
The treatment of alopecia areata depends on the extent of the disease. Monthly injections of
intralesional steroids are a common form of treatment, which usually hasten resolution to 4 to 6
months. New topical forms of treatment include dinitrochlorobenzene (which is a topical sensitizer)
anthralin 0.2% (anthra-Derm, Lasan, the only irritant subsistence), or psoralen plus ultraviolet light
A (PUVA). These treatment act by inducing an allergic contact dermatitis that, in healing,
promotes hair growth by a mechanism that is not fully understood. Resolution usually occurs in 8
to 12 weeks.

Topical minoxidil may be effective in alopecia areata, especially when used in the 5%
concentrations that are currently available only on a study protocol basis. The lower concentrations
(2%, Rogaine) are primarily effective in patchy alopecia areata.

Telogen Effluvium

Telogen effluvium is a form of abrupt, rapid, diffuse hair loss. This condition affects the entire
scalp, but the crown and bitemporal areas may appear to be mainly involved if there is associated
androgenic alopecia.

In telogen effluvium, there is an abrupt end to the anagen phase, so that the hair follicle phases
into catagen, then telogen. It is rarely severe and does not usually lead to baldness. But if the
condition is chronic and many generations of hair are lost, it may eventually lead to permanent hair
loss.

The  common causes of telogen effluvium include
1) stress, especially after severe infection, fever, childbirth or surgery;
2) Severe psychogenic distress;
3) nutritional deficiencies;
4) various medications
The hair loss seen after childbirth is the protype of telogen effluvium. Three months after giving
birth, women often complain of hair loss that can be extensive. This is a result of parturition, when
physical stress causes anagen hairs to switch abruptly into the telogen phase. Telogen hairs are
retained for an average of 3 months before being shed.
Since this type of hair loss is temporary, the only  therapy from your doctor is probably
reassurance.
New Treatments Now Under Study That Promise Hair Growth
Here is another story quite like that of Rogaine. ProCyte,  based  in Kirkland,  Wash.,  discovered
the  hair-growing effects of peptide copper in 1990 when it was testing the compound as a wound-
healing agent on laboratory mice,  whose  fur  had been shaven.  "The mouse wounds weren't
healing, but the hair  was  growing,"  (continued in part 2)


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: If fact, Emplant/ShapeShifer, give you a few abilities that you don't have
: on a Mac.  How about a Mac with a NTSC compatiable display (heck, genlock it
: on your Toaster!)  Easy file transfer between a Mac and Amiga (great for
: sending Lightware frames back and forth!)  The ability to buy ONE accelerator
: card that will make both your Amiga and Mac faster! Or buying 16 megs of RAM
: that both your Amiga and Mac can use.

: >Bill Leonard
: >[e-mail]

  Excellent points.  Plus with an Emplant, you can run i486/i586 software emulation that is
as fast as actually having a Intel CPU.  (pretranslative emulation is GREAT!)  Do you have
the i586 emplant upgrade?  (Wondering how solid it is...never have seen it in person)


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From: [e-mail] (Steph Greenberg)
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Subject: Re: Ok, now I'm depressed...
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robert hood ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Well, I just had to turn down an interview with DreamWorks in
: LA.  The reason?  Purely principles:  I don't want to move to LA.  Yet,
: thar be the industry (currently).  I just don't think it's worth
: subjecting my wife and kids to that place just to consider a position
: there.  Were I single, there wouldn't have been a question.

Well you shouldn't have turned town the interview. If they offered you
a job, you could always have turned that down. And there are numerous
areas that you wouldn't even know are in LA's proximity where you could
reside like Valencia/Newhall, Saugus, Simi Valley, etc. Certainly an hour
commute to the Universal area, but if you like suburban life, you
wouldn't be subjecting your family to LA.

You might have advanced your career far beyond what you could accomplish
in Denver alone, and with Dreamworks or any big LA shop on your resume,
you could write your own ticket in many parts of the country, and it
would distinguish you from your local competition in other parts of the
country. This doesn't even address whether you would have learned
something or not.

: Who knows, perhaps we can really create something and show Hollywood
: that LA isn't the only place where it's "happenin'"... =|^)

Maybe, but it'll be hard to find anyone who will pay your salaries while
you get it together. Good luck.

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Subject: FS: Video Toaster System
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Summary:
Keywords:

Subject: Video Toaster System For Sale
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Summary:
Keywords:

Toaster System For Sale

Includes:
  Amiga 2000 in Black Tower Case
  2mb Chip
  GVP GForce 030/50Mhz with 16mb 32 bit Ram Installed
  2 - Quantum 120mb SCSI Internal Hard Disks
  1 - CMS 550mb SCSI External Hard Disk
  Toaster Board with 3.5 Software
  One Stop Music Shop w/ SuperJam
  Personal TBC II
  1084 monitor / Keyboard / Mouse

This has been a production animation system and is in great shape.
The system includes 1000's of objects,  scenes,
images,  etc. and Tons of software.


$2300.00 obo

Please reply to :  [e-mail] or call [phone].





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From: [e-mail] (R S Rodgers)
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In article <3v8e25$[e-mail]>, Dan Ablan  <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Just preference, but, find a really good image of clouds.
> Something from a PhotoCD perhaps.  Image map that on a
> LARGE curved polygon.  Set the velocity for the image in
> whichever direction you think the clouds should move.
> Then.. you've got real clouds.  Fractals are nice too,
> but a decent image map is fast and easy...

Does anyone know what they used for the intro to Voyager (especially
the parting clouds) or how they did it?

Is it just a Voyager image or model composited with parting smoke? That
would be easy -- and given the ST series penchant for models.. But it doesn't
look like what I think that'd look like.

Anyone?



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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Chan)
Subject: Re: Perception and Audio News Flash
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V Teahan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : OK, I guess you guys don't get audio cards...let me explain this...

: : A $300 SB AWE 32 is not the same thing as this card, which handles (so it
: : seems) multiple (sounds like 8, in 4 stereo pairs) tracks of audio. I'm
: : about to buy an 8 track audio recorder called Session 8 - it's $3150,
: : street price. So the DPS board is cheaper.

: : And you NOT be forced to use this board to get get audio from Perception -
: : you COULD use cheap boards....so the 'NewTek approved drive' thing doens't
: : apply...

: : _____________________________________________
: : Lee Stranahan

: Of course we should have guessed..... Your from AOL...

Errr... I think you might reassess your generalization in this case.

You see, Lee is... well, you'll find out I suppose. :)

Good luck!

-Steve C.

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From: [e-mail] (Bill Leonard)
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Subject: Re: Ok, now I'm depressed...
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (robert hood) wrote:

[]>Well, I just had to turn down an interview with DreamWorks in
[]>LA.

[SNIP]

[]>I'm looking for all talent/skill levels (I'm an intermediate beginner).

Gee, I didn't know Dreamworks was looking for intermediate/beginning
Lightwave users!!
I knew I should have taken that Amiga more seriously 10 years ago!  ;-)

Bill Leonard
[e-mail]
______________________________________________________________________________
                                cyber.lab g.f.x.
                                Orlando, Florida
                                  407.425.5722
   3D Animation € Modeling € Special Effects € Station ID Packages € Pre-Viz
                   http://www.magicnet.net/~bill_l/top.html
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Dan Bloomfield writes:
>-> Why not just network the two. Thats what I've done between my Alpha
>-> and my Amigas, a MAC, and a Pentium.
>Speed for one thing. If you have hundreds of med res frames to transfer
>to an Amiga, rendering to a portable drive, removing one cable and
>attaching another is a whole lot faster than sending the frames across a
>network.


    Hmmmmm.  I've got some buddies with an ENLAN Amiga native network,
    and their network transfer speed almost seems faster than my machine's
    internal speed.

    So, there's no technical reason for an ethernetted machine to be
    extremely slow.

    My question is: is there some reason an Amiga/PC network would be
    slower than an Amiga/Amiga network?



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Dan Bloomfield ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Those of us at Gorilla Systems are using LW for character animation. We
: have Animation Master, but gave up on it and went back to LightWave.
: IMHO the lack of an undo for all the tools in AM was just inexcusable.
: At any rate our "Alfred the Electronic Butler" was done in LightWave and
: has been on both the NBC Nightly News and CNN, and we'll have a couple
: more character animations entered in the Wavey awards. LW was also used
: in our "Flip Out" video game for the Atari Jaguar which is very heavily
: character animation based. So while we don't have all the bells and
: whistles of the SGI programs it can be done.

Do you have a site where I could look at the characters and such, that'd
be greatly appreciated! I really would like to learn character animation
on several different packages and am glad to hear that someone is doing
it in LW with good success.

Also, the new version of Animation Master has been totally revamped and
addresses the issue that you had mentioned before. I think that the
programmers got a headache but it's better for us.


Thanks, for the info.

-Steve C.
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[e-mail] (V Teahan) wrote:

>    Has anybody seen the video Gate to the Mind Eye. I must say it is
>extremely good. Can some one who knows about it tell me if Quantum
>Mechanic was done in LightWave SGI or even Amiga. I wonder because its is
>very lightwaveish (LIghtwave Does have a certain look, as good as it
>maybe though..) Did they use LightWave...


     At the end of the tape, there is complete listings
     of who produced each animation.  Your best bet,
     and most reliable, would be to call the company
     responsible for the animation.

     Dan



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[e-mail] (PMshark) wrote:
>What's the best way to simulate realistic clouds in LW? Would creating a
>mass of points in modeler be the best way to go? And if so, is there a
>right way to randomize the points to get the desired whispy cloud effect?


 Just preference, but, find a really good image of clouds.
 Something from a PhotoCD perhaps.  Image map that on a
 LARGE curved polygon.  Set the velocity for the image in
 whichever direction you think the clouds should move.
 Then.. you've got real clouds.  Fractals are nice too,
 but a decent image map is fast and easy...

 Dan


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Subject: Re: the need for speed
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Tristram Clark <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Does anybody know of any rendering tests results for amigas v p.c
>using lightwave ?

My Amiga 2500 '040 18MB usually runs the texture examples scene
twice as fast as an Amiga 4000 '040.  Although this is not
a proper scene for comparison, it gives some idea.
My Pentium 100, 40MB RAM, renders about 5 times faster
than my Amiga 2500.  That's the highest it's rendered, and
hasn't fallen below 3.5 times faster.
These times compared to an Amiga 4000 '040 are 3.5 times
faster, minimum, to 8 times faster.

And, the Pentium is so much more affordable.

Dan



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Thanx for the reminder! I'll be there 4 sure! Time to fight
the US 17!!!

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz
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From: scorpio@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Rob K. Williams)
Subject: Re: Front projection mapping
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[e-mail] wrote:

:  Hello,
:    I got LightSpeed this past weekend. After viewing the tape I loaded
: the tutorial for front projection mapping and it was fine. However
:  when I try to do Front projection mapping my planes created in modeler
:  never seem to match the pic in Layout. Is there a specified resolution
:  works best for this type of mapping ? I have been in the habit of generating
:  hires images for years, could this be my problem ? I import
:  thr pic in modeler, carefully apply the points, export it to layout and
:  it is always very small in all demensions.

It's been a while since I tried that , but if I remember correctly, you have
to set the scale of the background image in modeler to toaster aspect ratio.
Specifically, 1.346 on the x scale, 1.0 on the y scale.  If this isn't
correct, someone please post the proper solution.

[e-mail]


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What happened to the lightwave mailing list?
It just stopped showing up on my system a few weeks ago and never resumed...


Tank Taylor
Vision Imaging
[e-mail]


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From: Colin Cunningham <[e-mail]>
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Well although animatics were done for Jurassic Park using Lightwave, they were
not done by ILM (you mentioned Amblin?). Steve Williams is a friend of mine and
he said he threw those animatics out the window and all the scenes were done
from scratch (I guess they weren't much help).

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Subject: Re: the need for speed
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This is a benchmark test. I collected the results form a variety of
sources. I have only been able to collect one Amiga performance test.

Machine   OS            RAM   Seg Size   Time
---------------------------------------------------------
Raptor3   NT3.5         32M     8.7M     4m  0s (with diskswapping)
Alpha275M NT3.5         64M     8.26M    5m49s          (Aspen)
P120      Win3.11Wg     32M     8.7M     12m  6s (no diskswapping)
P100      NT3.5         64M     8.76M    13m 32s
P90       NTs3.5        32M     ?        19m
P90       NT3.51        16M     3M       19m  (Not Paging)
P90       Win4Wg        32M     ?        19m
P90       NTs3.5        32M     ?        19m
P90       NT3.51        16M     9M       20m  (Paging)
DX4/100   Win4Wg        16M     2.2M     30m
DX4/100   Win95         16M     2.2M     33m
DX266     Windows 95    20M     9M       50m  (Paging)
DX266     Win4Wg         8M     ?        85m
A4000     (VMEM)        14M     2.2M     110m

Glyn Williams - Particle Systems Ltd.

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: : And you NOT be forced to use this board to get get audio from Perception -
: : you COULD use cheap boards....so the 'NewTek approved drive' thing doens't
: : apply...

: : _____________________________________________
: : Lee Stranahan

: Of course we should have guessed..... Your from AOL...


Now that comment surely proves that this guy has a really big brain!

And.... How many instructional videos have you done on LW, the Toaster,
and the Flyer.... ehhhhh?

(hint: pick up any copy of VTU and scan through it for instructional
videos - look for your name and then look for Lee and compare)


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Subject: Volumetrics anywhere in the future?
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  Does anyone know if te real 4.0 or any later version of LW will have volumetric textures?


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Will the released version of LightWave have any kind of OpenGL support?

Gregg P.

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    I have been hired to find and install a Video Toaster 4000 system
for a local television station. The needs are as follows:

    Video Toaster 4000 / Amiga 4000

    68040 @ 25 Mhz / 18 MB of RAM

    1 Personal TBC III or IV

    Compatable Monitor, and accesories...


    The funds are available now, and the station wants a system in
place as soon as possible. Payment terms are either P.O. Order or the
school system will write a check, fax you a copy, and upon delivery *and*
inspection (within 24 hours) will overnight you payment.

    EMail your offers to me directly please. [e-mail]

    Or Call at 703 938-3315...


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In article <[e-mail]>, Rotor <[e-mail]> wrote:
>: If fact, Emplant/ShapeShifer, give you a few abilities that you don't have
>: on a Mac.  How about a Mac with a NTSC compatiable display (heck, genlock it
>: on your Toaster!)  Easy file transfer between a Mac and Amiga (great for
>: sending Lightware frames back and forth!)  The ability to buy ONE accelerator
>: card that will make both your Amiga and Mac faster! Or buying 16 megs of RAM
>: that both your Amiga and Mac can use.
>
>: >Bill Leonard
>: >[e-mail]
>
>  Excellent points.  Plus with an Emplant, you can run i486/i586 software emulation that is
>as fast as actually having a Intel CPU.  (pretranslative emulation is GREAT!)  Do you have
>the i586 emplant upgrade?  (Wondering how solid it is...never have seen it in person)
>


You might want to take a sojourn over to comp.sys.amiga.emulations and watch
the complaining.  The e586 emulation is quite slow and useless, although
the Macintosh emulation of the Emplant is quite good.  You are better off
with PCTask v3.1.

I have found that ShapeShifter "rots" on the disk; if you set it up, it
works; if you then don't touch it for a few weeks and then run it again,
it crashes during the "Welcome to Macintosh" segment.  Copy the entire
drawer to another disk (resetting the datestamps), miracle! it suddenly
works again.  Leave it alone for some weeks, run it ... crash, you have
to turn data cache on your '040 off again.  It seems to be biodegradable.
When it does work, it is amazing ... it's faster on my 2000/'040 28MHz
than it is on our Mac IIfx.  (It is the unregistered version.)

However, I don't consider it stable enough yet to warrant purchasing
Photoshop to run on it, and there is a floppy bug that keeps me from
installing anything on it (hence my non-registration).

Jim May
The Vivid Group
Mandala VR Systems


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <3v53v2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (V Teahan) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (V Teahan)
>Subject: Gate to the minds Eye..
>Date: 26 Jul 1995 10:04:18 GMT

>Hi,

>        Has anybody seen the video Gate to the Mind Eye. I must say it is
>extremely good. Can some one who knows about it tell me if Quantum
>Mechanic was done in LightWave SGI or even Amiga. I wonder because its is
>very lightwaveish (LIghtwave Does have a certain look, as good as it
>maybe though..) Did they use LightWave...

I have heard the comment that LightWave has a certain look before and it was
discussed here previously.  There is a small amount of truth to this, but in
general, I think it is bunk.  As a case in point, when Voyager came out people
here couldn't even accurately say which parts were CG much less which were LW.
 LW may have a certain look if you keep things set to the defaults, but that's
de-fault of the animator, not LW (yeah - its a horrible pun).
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <3v8e25$[e-mail]> Dan Ablan <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Clouds
>Date: 27 Jul 1995 16:15:01 GMT

>[e-mail] (PMshark) wrote:
>>What's the best way to simulate realistic clouds in LW? Would creating a
>>mass of points in modeler be the best way to go? And if so, is there a
>>right way to randomize the points to get the desired whispy cloud effect?


> Just preference, but, find a really good image of clouds.
> Something from a PhotoCD perhaps.  Image map that on a
> LARGE curved polygon.  Set the velocity for the image in
> whichever direction you think the clouds should move.
> Then.. you've got real clouds.  Fractals are nice too,
> but a decent image map is fast and easy...

> Dan

I agree with the Fractal suggestion.  Put a Fractal color map on a very large
rectangular polygon and place it parallel to the ground plane (I cheat and
give the poly a slight tilt so it hits the horizon sooner) - you can get very
realistic clouds.

I have also created clouds in Vista-Pro and then used them as an image map.
Fractal patterns slow down rendering, so if you can find the right map, that
may be preferable.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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I just wanted to thank Michael Comet for putting together the FAQ.  It is much
needed.  Of course, we can only hope that people choose to read it.

BTW the old newsgroup (comp.graphics.packages.lightwave) has now dropped from
my newsserver.  R.I.P.

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On 17 Jul 1995, LZucaro wrote:

> >>I hope John Foust got a good deal with NewTek and I wish him much
> success with
> Interchange, sounds like something the market needs very badly.
> <<
>
> Except I called Syndesis this morning about Interchange, and they told me
> it's still in beta, too, and it's $495!!!!!
>
> Ridiculous...
>
> Lou
>
>
There is another package on the market for modeling and file conversion.
The package is World Render 3D. It supports 21 file formats including:
3D-Studio, WaveFront, Imagine, Render Morphics, Sculpt 3D/4D, POV, VIVID,
DXF, NFF, VIDEOSCAPE more .... The program is also a modeler which allows
you to modify or create from scratch entire scenes. This package is
prices at $299.95.

ORDERING & INFO
MAZAR Software Corporation
1801 N.E. 197 Terrace
N.Miami Beach, FL 33179

Phone: [phone]


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On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Ernie Wright wrote:

> Jay Turberville wrote:
>
> > I am curious if Visual Basic can be used to make plug-ins for LW.
>
> No.  VB can't be used to make dynamic-link libraries (DLLs), which is
> what plug-ins are under Windows.  But it should be possible to write
> plug-ins (in C) that can be called by VB programs.  Obviously this isn't
> something many casual VB programmers will want to tackle.
>
> - Ernie
>
>
>
You may want to check out Borlands Delphi. It will produce DLL's directly
and as for speed matched to VB, Delphi BURNS......

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On 22 Jul 1995, Darren Metcalfe wrote:

> [e-mail] (Corsa) wrote:
>
> >>lightwave object files to wavefront format.
>
> >    Pixel 3D Pro and Syndesis Interchange Plus both do this...both are
> >    Amiga programs, although I believe Interchange is now available
> >    for Windows...is this correct?
>
> It's not quite shipping yet, and it's doubled in price to $495.
>
>
> --
> Darren Metcalfe
> [e-mail]
>
>
>
>
Check World Render 3D. It is a modeler and converter. The converter
supports 21 file formats. The modeler allows you modify the data before
saving or to create entire scenes from scratch.

ORDERING & INFO
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Phone: [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Shane Van Dyk)
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Here's my problem.
 My current dream project involves the following.
   -a tropical forest (or anything I can get)
   -birds
   -bugs
   -leaves and foliage
   -waterfall

 My goal is to get a bird to fly either over or thru a series of trees
and then over a large valley, with bugs, and things there are usually in
forests...

  Questions
    I have old versions of Scenery animator and Vista, would anyone
reccomend getting World Construction Set2.0?. or the better question
would be which one can:

    -> create paths that can be transfered into lightwave so that the
    location of the sun etc. lines up if I use an alpha layer while
    rendering

    ->can be used as a plug in or is incorporated into ANY 3D prog so that
      I wont have to overlay.

    ->would it be insane to try to use the Feilds and foliage set of
    bump/texture maps. render a bunch of trees, use them as clip
    maps. then use real F&F trees to fly by close while 1 poly clip
    maps make up the background trees??

    ->Which scenery prog would give me the most realistic tropical forest?
      -personally I have had good results creating a morning fog
    blanketing the trees effect in Vista by using 175% size trees and
    a Huge DEM. although the only way to get a good sunrise is to
    render the sky dome and texture found at several sites on the net and
    use it as a background

Besides loading every few frames into lightwave and postioning my bird, if I
have to use an overlay, how can I get a bird to fly around branches and
trees???

Anyone have any good BUGS!!!!!??  ICKY REAAAAAAALLLY Icky ones are best!????

umm.
 How the Heck do you use DUST. and is there any easier way to do it?
 by DUST I am refering to the particle animation program normally used
for lightwave. I can hardley figure out Sparks let alone this one!

  And the reason I am asking...
    Has anyone successfully created a waterfall with Sparks or dust??

    -there have been some great tips on here lately about animating water.
most all of which I had similar theories to brought on one day by
accidentally screwing up my cloud texture. the only thing I didn't think
of was morphing several water like shapes to get a flow feel.--

I've probably bored a few of you with my 101 questions so thats it for
now. I've got a few older renderings on my web site if you want to see
them. I've got to redo my dactyl so that it is backlit more like the
rocks behind it though(one of my pics)

      Thanx

       Shane VanDyk               Reality is only a State of mind...
  http://www.mgl.ca/~svandyk       Render yourself senseless with Lightwave


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>: If fact, Emplant/ShapeShifer, give you a few abilities that you don't
>: on a Mac.  How about a Mac with a NTSC compatiable display (heck,
>: on your Toaster!)  Easy file transfer between a Mac and Amiga (great for
>: sending Lightware frames back and forth!)  The ability to buy ONE
>: card that will make both your Amiga and Mac faster! Or buying 16 megs
>: that both your Amiga and Mac can use.

I also forgot that you can have a Mac with a IBM compatiable serial and
parallel ports (use IBM printers and modem without an interface).

>: >Bill Leonard
>: >[e-mail]

>  Excellent points.  Plus with an Emplant, you can run i486/i586 software
>as fast as actually having a Intel CPU.  (pretranslative emulation is
>the i586 emplant upgrade?  (Wondering how solid it is...never have seen

Well, Emplant PC is NOWHERE as good as UU (Jim Drew) says it is.  I have seen
e586dx, and I wouldn't buy it.  With a 68040 you are only talking a bit faster
than an IBM-XT (maybe a slow 286 system).  It does run Windows, but Windows is
slow enough on a real PC, then to have it run on a slow emulator!  There is
just to much to emulate.

        Kane            --------------------------------------------
        Peterson       -- "Kane's World" World Wide Web Home Page: --
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publish_it@.interramp.com wrote:


>HOW TO STOP HAIR LOSS and REGROW HAIR (condensed)**
>1995 Infonet communication Inc. (inquiry: [e-mail])
>by Mary Sheen, MD

>Part 1  Introduction
>Hair plays a significant role in our life. Another person's hair is one of the first characteristics we
>notice upon meeting. Our own hair is one of the first and last things we attend to before a meeting
>or a social engagement. Hair disorder, especially when severe, often profoundly affects the lives of
>those afflicted. Severe hair loss evokes not only cosmetic concerns but may also evoke feelings of
>vulnerability (nakedness), loss of self-esteem, alterations in self-image, and, perhaps, even self-
>identity.

>In 1992, researchers at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, surveyed 145 men, and found
>that 84 percent of the balding men were preoccupied with their loss. They described themselves
>as filled with self-consciousness, helplessness, and envy of men with full heads of hair. Single men
>and woman who had begun losing hair in their early twenties were more likely to suffer from
>extremely low self-esteem.

>While stressful, balding isn't the end of the world. Although the men reported glancing in the
>mirror constantly and wearing hats even in warm weather, they manage to make it through their
>daily lives without much problem. For some it even sparked self-improvement tactics like fiddling
>with hair styles, working out more, and dressing better. Servey result is shown in the following
>chart.
>How deep does a bald man's anxiety runs?
>    Reported                     extent of hair los
>    experience                      low        high
>    Notice bald/balding men            54%        82%
>    spend time looking in mirror at hair        54        69
>    Feel self-conscious                42        78
>    Look older than actual age            40        55
>    Worry that others will notice            39        56
>    worry about aging                37        46
>    Feel less attractive                31        51
>    Envy good-looking men                33        34
>    Try to improve hair style            63        66
>    Try to improve physique            41        36
>    dress nicer                    26        45
>    Wear hats or caps                23        41
>    Seek reassurance about looks            23        39
>    Grow a beard or a mustache            18        36

>Stereotypes associated with baldness are not flattering. A research back in 1971( reference)  had
>been conducted to investigate how one person was perceived by others can be influenced by
>quantity of scalp hair (regular, balding, and bald) as well as color, length, and quality of scalp hair.
>Pictures of the same person were presented to 60 judges. Differences in appearances of this
>person (ie, experimental conditions of regular, balding, and bald) were manipulated through
>modifications made by a commerical artist. The results revealed that the person with a regular
>quantity of hair was rated as most handsome, virile, strong, active, and sharp. The person with a
>balding head of hair was rated as least potent, weak, dull, and inactive, and the person with a bald
>head of  hair was rated as most unkind, bad, and ugly.  Many other studies also show employment
>discrimination based on a person's appearance (ref )
>
>Motivation to avoid baldness is not confined to this century. In 1150 BC Egyptian men smear their
>pates with fats from ibex, lions, crocodiles, serpents, geese, and hippopotamuses. In modern
>society, this aversion is readily evident from the many available remedies such as creams,
>hormones, vitamins, hairpieces, wigs, scalp reduction and hair transplants. A government report in
>1983 reveals that over the past 9 years the FDA has overseen the investigation of ingrediets in
>about 300,000 products claimed to help hair regrowth, none of them has any medical benefit, of
>course.

>The goal of  this book is to provide comprehensive information on how to cope with baldness.
>From this book, you will learn how to preserve what you've got, restore what you haven't, or live
>happily with your follocular deficit.

>Part 2   Get to Know Your Hair
>The amount of hair and where it grows vary with different mammals.  The entire body of the dog,
>the sheep, the cow, and the horse is covered with a hairy coat. The whale and the hippopotamus
>have only a few hairs. In humans, hair is not found on palms of the hands or the soles of the feet.
>The coloration and pattern of coats in animals serve both as a camouflage for protection against
>enemies and as an allurement to mates. Fine and transparent, human hair is a vestige of our
>hairier animal forbears, that probably evolved from the scales of reptiles.  The adult human body
>averages five million hairs, of which 100,000 to 150,000 are on the scalp.

>Hair is composed of keratin, the same protein that makes up nails and the outer layer of our skin.
>The part seen rising out of the skin is called hair shaft or strand. Each strand consist of three
>layers. The outermost protective layer (cuticle) is thin and colorless. The middle layer, or cortex , is
>the thicknest. It provides strength,  determines your hair color and whether your hair is straight or
>curly.

>Hair color is determined by melanin from your pigment cells. The more pigment granules there
>are, and the more tightly packed, the darker the hair.  Two kinds of melanin contribute to hair
>color.  Eumelanin colors hair brown to black, and an iron-rich pigment, pheomelanin colors it
>yellow-blonde to red.  Whether hair is mousy, brown, brunette or black depends on the type and
>amount of melanin and how densely it's distributed within the hair.  For example, deep-black
>African hair contains closely packed melanin in the cortex, a few in the cuticle.  Very dark
>European hair, quite apart from having more melanin granules than lighter or blonde hair, has
>more melanin per granule. When pigment-producing cells cease to  function, the result is the
>uncolored white or gray hair.

>Scalp hair varies tremendously between races, between individuals of same race, and even within
>an individual. Mongolians have straight hair simply because their scalp hair has the greatest
>thickness and the roundest cross-section. In Caucasians the hair is more elliptical and slender; in
>Negroes it is flattened, resulting in kinky curls. Mongolians, both male and female, have much less
>public, axillary, facial, and body hair than Caucasians. In Caucasians, true blonds typically have
>more hair (about 140,000 hair) than brunette (about 105,000) or redhead (about 90,000).

>Below your skin is the hair root which is enclosed by a sack-like structure called the hair follicle.
>Tiny blood vessels at the base of the follicle provide nourishment. A nearby gland secretes a
>mixture of fats (called sebum) which keep the hair shiny and waterproof to some extent. Secretions
>from some sweat glands also produce a characteristic odor. A dog can differentiate a human being
>by the typical scent secreted by these glands. Two sets of glands discharge secretions through the
>skin.  while sebaceous, or oil, glands arise from the walls of hair follicles and produce an oil
>called sebum that lubricates the skin and hair, Sweat glands, embedded in the subcutaneous
>layer, are scattered over the body, particularly in the palms and soles. Sweat glands produce
>moisture called perspiration that reaches the skin's surface through the pores and evaporates to
>cool the body.

>At the base of the follicle is the papilla, which is the "hair manufacturing plant."  The papilla is fed
>by the blood-stream which carries nourishment to produce new hair. Male hormones or androgens
>regulate hair growth.  Pubic and axillary (armpit) hair are particularly androgen-sensitive and grow
>at lower androgen levels than hair on the chest or legs.  In boys, most pubic hair is grown by age
>15, followed by the development of armpit hair two to three years later.  In girls, too, an increase in
>androgens at puberty triggers growth of pubic and armpit hair.  Scalp hair, not directly androgen-
>responsive, is influenced by local amounts of a testosterone derivative, dihydrotestosterone.

>Hair follicles initially form in utero.  No new follicles are created after birth, and none are lost in
>adult life. The first hair to be produced by the fetal hair follicles is Lanugo hair, which is fine, soft,
>and unpigmented. This is usually shed in about the eighth month of gestation.
>The first postnatal hair is vellus hair, which is fine, soft, usually unpigmented, and seldom more
>than 2 cm long. Vellus hair remains on the so-called hairless regions of the body, such as the
>forehead and balding scalp.
>At puberty, the vellus hair in some areas is replaced by terminal hair, which is longer, coarser, and
>pigmented. Growth starts in the pubic region; then the eyelashes and eyebrows become thicker.
>Axillary hair and male facial hair appear about two years after growth of pubic hair begins. Body
>hair continues to develop long after puberty, stimulated by male hormones that paradoxically, also
>cause terminal hair to be replaced by vellus hair when balding begins.

>Scalp hair fibers grow from 100,000 to 350,000 follicles which are reported to occupy the human
>scalp; however, not all the follicles are productive.[1] In each producing follicle, the duration of the
>hair's life cycle is influenced by age, pathology and a wide variety of physiological factors.[1,2] The
>life cycle is divided into the anagen (active), catagen (transitional) and telogen (resting) phases.

>The anagen phase is the period of active hair growth where protein synthesis and keratinization
>are continuously occurring. In normal subjects, this phase lasts for up to five years, although
>longer durations have been documented.

>The cessation of the anagen phase is characterized by a transitory phase known as catagen. This
>phase lasts for two to three weeks.

>Following the catagen phase, the hair enters the telogen or "resting" phase. In normal subjects,
>telogen hair is retained within the scalp for up to 12 weeks before the emerging new hair dislodges
>it from its follicle.

>During the anagen phase, protein s thesis is the main distinction of the hair bulb. In the telogen
>phase, the dermal papilla undergoes renewal. It is at this time that structural characteristics can be
>modified. The new hair should be identical to its predecessor, but with advancing age, and in
>some pathological states, a strict copy is not maintained. In these circumstances, the hair may
>become finer and shorter, modifying the esthetic profile. Since these effects occur over several hair
>cycles, years may elapse before the affected individual recognizes the difference.

>Like skin cells, hair grows and is shed regularly.   Shedding anywhere from 50 to 100 hairs per
>day is considered normal. The average rate of growth is about 1/2 inch a month.  It is now known
>that hair grows fastest in the summer, slowest in the winter, speeds up under heat and friction, but
>slows down when exposed to cold. Hair grows the best between the ages of 15 to 30. But, hair
>growth begins to wind down sometime between the ages of 40 and 50. Progressive hair loss
>begins naturally in both sex about age 50, accelerating in the 70s. About 40 percent of Caucasian
>men lose hair to some extent by age 35.

>What cause hair loss? can we do something about it? we will discuss these matters upcoming
>chapters.

>Hair Loss, Men and Women

>Androgenic alopecia
>By far the most common form of hair loss is determined by our genes and hormones: Also known
>as androgen-dependent, androgenic, or genetic hair loss. It  is the largest single type of
>recognizable alopecia to affect both men and women. It is estimated that around 30% of
>Caucasian females are affected before menopause. Other commonly used names for genetic hair
>loss include common baldness, diffuse hair loss, male or female pattern baldness.

>1. Male Pattern Baldness (MPB)

>Signs and Symptoms

>* Receding hairline
>* Moderate to extensive loss of hair, especially on the crown

>2. Female pattern Baldness (FPB)

>Signs and Symptoms

>* General thinning of hair all over the head
>* Moderate loss of hair on the crown or at hairline

>MPB is the hair loss most frequently encountered. It usually starts with the hair at the temples,
>which gradually recedes to form an "M" shape.  You also may find your hair is finer and does not
>grow as long as it once did. The hair on the crown of your head begins to thin out and eventually at
>the top points of the "M" meet the thinned spot on your crown. Over time, you are left with a horse-
>shoe pattern of hair around the sides of your head. Any remaining hair in the balding areas usually
>manifests some miniaturization - it is thinner and grows at a below-normal rate, changing from
>long, thick, coarse, pigmented hair into fine, unpigmented sprouts.

>Female pattern baldness usually begins about age 30, becomes noticeable around age 40, and
>may be even more noticeable after menopause.  Female hair loss is usually an overall thinning--
>two hairs where five used to be--rather than a bald area on top of the head, though women may
>have a receding hairline, too.  It's thought that about 20 million American women have such hair
>loss.  As in males, hair follicles simply shut down, with hormones playing some role in the process.

>The mechanism of balding

>The rate of hair shedding in androgenic alopecia is speeded up by three forces: advancing age, an
>inherited tendency to bald early, and an over-abundance of the male hormone dihydrotestosterone
>(DHT) within the hair follicle.  DHT is a highly active form of testosterone, which influences many
>aspects of manly behavior, from sex drive to aggression. The conversion from testosterone to DHT
>is driven by an enzyme called 5-alpha reductase, which is produced in the prostate, various
>adrenal glands, and the scalp. Over time, the action of DHT causes the hair follicle to degrade and
>shortens the anagen phase. Thought the follicle is technically still alive and connected to a good
>blood supply--it can successfully nurture a transplanted follicle which is immune to the effects  of
>DHT--it will grow smaller and smaller (figure 3). Some follicles will gradually die, but most will
>simply shrink to the size they were when you were born which produce weaker hairs. With a
>steadily shorter anagen growing cycle, more hairs are shed, the hairs becoming thinner and
>thinner until they are too fine to survive daily wear and tear.  Balding hair gradually changes from
>long, thick, coarse, pigmented hair into fine, unpigmented vellus sprouts.

>However, the sebaceous gland attached to it remains the same size.  As the hair shafts become
>smaller, the gland continues to pump out about the same amount of oil.  So as your hair thins, you
>will notice that your hair becomes flatter and oilier.

>Other physiological factors might cause hair loss. Recently, a group of Japanese researcher
>reported a correlation between excessive sebum in the scalp and hair loss. Excessive sebum often
>accompanying thinning hair is attributed to an enlargement of the sebaceous gland. They believed
>excessive sebum causes an high level of 5-alpha reductase and pore clogging, thus malnutrition
>of the hair root.

>Although this condition could be hereditary, they believe diet is a more prominent cause. The
>researchers note that Japanese hair was thick and healthy, with a small gland and little scalp oil,
>until the occidental habit of consuming animal fat crept into their diet after World War II. This
>change has led to a significant height increase in the Japanese population, but it has also resulted
>in more Japanese men losing hair. To some extent, their observation makes  sense since
>problems with greasy hair have often been noted as much as six months to a year prior to when
>thinning hair becomes noticeable, but this might be just one of the symptons, not underlying
>cause, more research is needed. Most doctors agree  that  If you have a oily scalp with thinning
>hair, frequent shampooing is advised. shampooing can reduce surface sebum, which contains
>high levels of testosterone and DHT that may reenter the skin and affect the hair follicle.


>Treatment for Male Pattern Baldness
>Balding men and women seem to go to almost any lengths to regrow thinning hair. Until now,
>inherited balding in either sex has not responded well to any anti-balding stimulants, applications,
>injections, or other treatments.  Specific foods or vitamins don't regrow hair -- although good
>nutrition is essential for healthy hair.

>Antiandrogen Therapy

>In the United Kingdom, the most commonly used anti-androgen for women is CPA (cyproterone
>acetate) in combination with ethinyl-estradiol. In the United States, where CPA is not available, the
>aldosterone antagonist spironolactone has been given in dosages from 75 to 100 mg per day with
>some benefit. However, higher doses (150 to 200 mg per day) appear necessary to produce a
>significant increase in cosmetically useful hair, as occurs with CPA therapy.

>Anti-androgen treatment must be continued for at least 12 months. Often two years is required
>before a subjective improvement is observed.

>Complete reversal of the hair loss can never be achieved unless treatment is instigated within two
>years of its onset. This is probably due to the atrophy of the miniaturized hair follicles with time.
>The degree of benefit observed is dependent upon the subject's age and the duration of alopecia;
>however, most patients are satisfied with the thought that no further hair loss will occur. Some
>improvement in hair  quality should be expected in all cases, although withdrawal of therapy
>results in further progression of the alopecia.

>Nonhormonal aspects are critical to ensure an optimal therapeutic response is achieved. And, the
>need to maintain vitamin and serum ferritin levels above values previously thought adequate has
>recently been demonstrated.

>The side effects of oral CPA therapy in combination with ethinyl-estradiol are well documented and
>are similar to those associated with other oral contraceptive regimens. Spironolactone disrupts the
>menstrual cycle and increases menstrual bleeding in some patients; but, in general, it is well
>tolerated.

>To understand how these hormonal remedies work, you need to know a little science. DHT is one
>of several male hormones, called androgens, that compete for a berth on the hair follicle's receptor
>sites.  In principle, if you could keep the receptor busy metabolizing other hormones, like
>progesterone, DHT would never have a chance to move in and start shrinking the follicle. The
>researched based on this concept have made little progress over the past decade. The biggest
>hurdle: to limit the effects of the androgen blocker to the scalp only. If DHT is blocked at other sites
>around the body, a male will lose his sex drive and develop a vocal delivery that resembles a
>teenage girl's. Blocking the activities of DHT in female who have hair loss is, of course, less
>problematic. Spironolactone or Aldactone  does just that, and very effectively.

>Rogaine

>By far the most publicized medical treatment available for male pattern baldness is minoxidil
>(Rogaine). The idea of using minoxidil topically to grow hair was serendipitous. This drug was
>originally developed to treat high blood pressure and had the unanticipated side effect of
>stimulating hair growth, sometimes in unwanted areas. This observation led to the testing of
>topical minoxidil on balding areas of the scalp. Since its introduction in 1988, Upjohn, the
>manufacturer, sells about $150 million worth of the drug each year, even though its ability to grow
>back hair is, at best, modest.

>A large-scale clinical trial involved over 2,300 participants with male pattern baldness
> was carried out by having 1,547 patients apply 1 ml of 2% or 3% minoxidil and 779 patients apply
>1 ml of placebo ( no active ingradients, only alcohol and propylene glycol) twice a day to the
>balding area. Actual counts of vellus hairs, indeterminate hairs, and terminal hairs in an one-inch
>patch were made before and after treatment.  At 4 months, 5% to 8% of patients had moderate to
>marked hair growth on the balding vertex of the scalp. This figure is statistically no different from
>the number of men who regrow hair in response to a plcaebo. another 15% to 20% of patients had
>some growth of vellus hair on the balding area.  At 12 months, 39% of patients had moderate to
>marked hair growth, while 11% of those using placebo reported an increase in hair growth. This
>result shows that you to used minoxidil for more than 4 months in order to decide whether this
>treatment works for you.

>Who is the best candidate for this drug? research showed that you have to be:

>1) young man (20 to 30 years old), who only recently (within 5 years) had begun to bald
>2) not completely bald, and
>3) not bald at the temples

>This drug works best on small areas of vertex baldness (smaller than 1 square inch).
>There is no evidence that topical minoxidil could regenerate hair on the receding temple area.
>Topical minoxidil was as effective at a concentration of 2% as at 3%. A 1% formulation was less
>effective.

>Successful treatment, however, does require a lifetime commitment. The topical solution must be
>applied to the balding area twice a day, every day. Decreasing the dosage to once a day results in
>some hair loss, and discontinuing application causes  regression to pretreatment baldness within
>3 to 6 weeks. The cost?  Anywhere between $600 to $1,000 a year, depending on the size of the
>area to be treated.

>Why minoxidil works remain a mystery. It is know  to be a powerful vasodilator, but other drugs the
>dilate blood vessels do not promote hair growth. It is postulated that it delays or prevents  some
>follicles' entry into the next anagen phase for long periods of time and stimulate these follicles back
>into active production.  But this theory remains to be vindicated.

>The disadvantages of minoxidil are: 1) lifetime commitment; 2) high cost : It is not covered by
>health insurance schemes as it's considered a cosmetic; 3)Its side effects;  including itching and
>prickling, headaches (in 40 per cent), dizzy spells and, in some, heartbeat irregularities. Although
>apparently safe when rubbed into the scalp - since little is absorbed into the bloodstream - it is a
>vasodilator and not recommended for anyone with heart trouble. Its safety in men over age 49 and
>its long-term safety remain unknown. Some scientists believe that minoxidil is more effective in
>preventing hair loss than in promoting regrowth, but no controlled trials are available.

>At the time of writing this book, the only away you can obtain rogaine is through a doctor's
>prescription. That could be changed soon. Upjohn is confident it will obtain FDA approval to take
>the drug over the counter.

>Meanwhile, researchers are working on ways to make minoxidil work better and are also exploring
>other avenues.

>Increasing the concentration of minoxidil from its prescribed 2 percent concentration to 5 percent
>in some cases has produced a 10 percent increase in hair growth.  Enhancing the drug with
>Retin-A also has improved hair growth in some experiments.  You can't find these solutions in U.S.
>pharmacies (they are available in Europe), but some dermatologists over here can have
>pharmacists prepare these mixtures.
>Check around.

>Other proposed nonsurgical baldness remedies

>One anti-androgenic drug now being tried as a baldness remedy is oral finasteride. It inhibits the
>5-alpha reductase (enzyme) that transforms testosterone into the dihydrotestosterone (DHT) form
>responsible for hair loss. Blocking the action of DHT seems to stimulate growth of stronger, thicker
>and more pigmented hair. In one multicentre study, 200 males aged 18 to 35 with distinct
>baldness had a one-inch circle of scalp shaved and periodically examined for hair growth. The
>report states that "men taking 5 mg per day of oral finasteride had significantly increased hair
>growth. Side effects - such as impotence, loss of libido and reduced sperm counts - were not
>widespread, and often decreased with time, affecting about three per cent of the sample." Ideal
>candidates for finasteride treatment are men who have already
>fathered all the children they wish, as its use for baldness might be lifelong and it could harm any
>fetus conceived (while taking it). Further studies are needed to assess the drug's efficacy, dosage
>and long-term safety. Another dihydrotestosterone-inhibitor now being tested is a derivative of
>hyaluronic acid, the chemical at the tip of sperm that aids penetration of the egg's membrane.
>Massaged into the scalp, this substance apparently blocks the androgenic action that causes hair
>loss, but more research is needed.

>Medical researchers in Asia believe that hair loss is caused mainly by  insufficient blood supply to
>the scalp. The other possibility is excessive  sebum in the scalp which causes pore clogging and
>malnutrition in the hair root( "sebaceous Gland Hypothesis", proposed by Dr. Yoshikata Inaba of
>The Inaba Aesthetic Surgery in Tokyo).  The so-called 101 hair regrowth  lotion is formulated to
>attack the problems. 101 became famous after it had won several international awards, among
>them, "gold medal" from 14th  International Inventors Exposition in New York (June 4, 1991).
>According to Dr. Zhuang-Guang Zhao, the inventor, 101 promotes blood circulation by  removing
>blood stasis in the scalp and dilating the blood capillaries, it  also remove sebum in the scalp.
>Unlike other  treatments, it has no side effects, the  active compounds in this lotion are isolated
>from plants,  According to Newsweek and New York Times reports (references at page 48),  there
>is no questioning its popularity with the 3 million bald folks in Japan. Masashi Sada, a popular
>Japanese singer, said recently on the radio
>that the product worked wonders on his head. Millions of men and women in  Asia reportedly have
>used 101 and 90 percent are said to have found it  effective in hair regrowth and a significant
>reduction of hair loss. According to a spokesperson for the 101 products the improved formula
>called Fabao 101D will be introduced to USA this year. But will 101D work on American heads?
>(Interested reader can obtain a copy of brochure
>by writting to: Pan State Health Products, Division of Hair Care, 155-21 Cherry Ave, Flushing, NY
>11355, or e-mail: [e-mail])

>Other types of  Hair Loss and treatments
>Alopecia Areata
>Sudden hair loss most commonly is due to alopecia areata, a condition that occurs in  2% of the
>population and affects all races and bothsexes equally. Alopecia areata starts abruptly with one or
>more circular  patches of hair loss, up to 3 inches across, that may overlap, these bald patches
>normally occur on the scalp but occasionally elsewhere on the body, such as the beard or the
>eyebrows. The bald areas are smooth and painless.

>Alopecia areata is thought to be an autoimmune disease and strongly associated with vitiligo and
>diabetes. Patients with Down syndrome are especially prone to the disease.

>In 90% of the cases, the hair grows back within 6 to 24 months. The outcome is worse if the
>episode occurs early in life or if you lose all scalp hair in a single episode.

>To diagnose alopecia areata, your doctor will perform a complete medical history and examination.
>The treatment of alopecia areata depends on the extent of the disease. Monthly injections of
>intralesional steroids are a common form of treatment, which usually hasten resolution to 4 to 6
>months. New topical forms of treatment include dinitrochlorobenzene (which is a topical sensitizer)
>anthralin 0.2% (anthra-Derm, Lasan, the only irritant subsistence), or psoralen plus ultraviolet light
>A (PUVA). These treatment act by inducing an allergic contact dermatitis that, in healing,
>promotes hair growth by a mechanism that is not fully understood. Resolution usually occurs in 8
>to 12 weeks.

>Topical minoxidil may be effective in alopecia areata, especially when used in the 5%
>concentrations that are currently available only on a study protocol basis. The lower concentrations
>(2%, Rogaine) are primarily effective in patchy alopecia areata.

>Telogen Effluvium

>Telogen effluvium is a form of abrupt, rapid, diffuse hair loss. This condition affects the entire
>scalp, but the crown and bitemporal areas may appear to be mainly involved if there is associated
>androgenic alopecia.

>In telogen effluvium, there is an abrupt end to the anagen phase, so that the hair follicle phases
>into catagen, then telogen. It is rarely severe and does not usually lead to baldness. But if the
>condition is chronic and many generations of hair are lost, it may eventually lead to permanent hair
>loss.

>The  common causes of telogen effluvium include
>1) stress, especially after severe infection, fever, childbirth or surgery;
>2) Severe psychogenic distress;
>3) nutritional deficiencies;
>4) various medications
>The hair loss seen after childbirth is the protype of telogen effluvium. Three months after giving
>birth, women often complain of hair loss that can be extensive. This is a result of parturition, when
>physical stress causes anagen hairs to switch abruptly into the telogen phase. Telogen hairs are
>retained for an average of 3 months before being shed.
>Since this type of hair loss is temporary, the only  therapy from your doctor is probably
>reassurance.
>New Treatments Now Under Study That Promise Hair Growth
>Here is another story quite like that of Rogaine. ProCyte,  based  in Kirkland,  Wash.,  discovered
>the  hair-growing effects of peptide copper in 1990 when it was testing the compound as a wound-
>healing agent on laboratory mice,  whose  fur  had been shaven.  "The mouse wounds weren't
>healing, but the hair  was  growing,"  (continued in part 2)




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On 27-Jul-95 15:07:10, Rotor ([e-mail]) posted:

>  Plus with an Emplant, you can run i486/i586
>  software emulation that is
> as fast as actually having a Intel CPU.  (pretranslative emulation is
> GREAT!)  Do you have  the i586 emplant upgrade?  (Wondering how solid it
> is...never have seen it in person)

Not by a long shot! While the MAC emulation software works exceptionally
well, the i586 software is dog-slow, in the 286 performance range. It is
virtually unusable for anything productive, much less for something
demanding like rendering. Want to run PC software, your only real choice
is a PC.

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| My sentiments exactly. It kind of makes me wonder if there's a
| creativity problem at work or something. Why waste money/time
| on re-doing a Classic, just because of as change in technology???

| To take your King Kong example a step or two further, why not re-
| paint the Mona Lisa, now that we have computer graphics?  [gag]
| Haven't we seen enough of THOSE images yet?   ;)

| There are FAR too many possibilities in the Star Wars universe
| to waste time going back to retread the original. What a poor
| decision. Sorry to hear it.

The main thing that the RE-DONE Star Wars will have is:

Better (non existant) mat-lines.  and Jabba the Hut as a CG character.

Some effects will be re-done to look more like George wanted them to
look like (this is the important part you've missed.  George himself
wants to re-do a few effects, and add a few missing scenes.  (character
development that went missing because they figured there'd be only the
one film)

| Wasn't it Darth Vader who said something like, "Don't be too PROUD
| of this technological horror you've created..."?
the exact quite is:

Don't be too proud on this technological terror you've created.  The
power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the
force...[misc ranting deleted]  I find your lack of faith disturbing.


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John Sonedecker ([e-mail]) wrote:
| Hi all,
| In the past I have used Symbolics machines for animation and they have
| this nifty little feature called "Stencil". Its not related to Lightwave's
| . This thing would flatten and trace an orthoganal view into an
| integrated paint program on a Hi-Res monitor as an Alpha channel. Than
| you could paint a map over the"Stencil" and the image map would fit
| perfectly on the model when applied. I have been able to do this very
| crudely using Windows Clipboard to do a screen capture and then load
| that into my paint program and crop it until all I have is awireframe
| picture of my model. Then I make an Alpha channel of it and then paint
| over it that way. This is very tiresome. Does anyone know of anyother way
| to accomplish this or a way to refine what I am allready doing? Just ask
| if you need a more indepth description, i'll try. Post or e-mail.Thanks
| -John Sonedecker
| [e-mail]
The process of actually UNFOLDING a surface so that you can determine
what it would look like before you cut the bits out of a single (flat
) sheet of paper is not plesant and not the easiest way of accomplishing
a proper surface map anyways.  The best technique depends largely on the
complexity of the object in question (of course)  simple objects that
contain mostly straight line can be faked with a simple estimate of the
differing sides sises wrt one another.  A better esimate can be found
with a quick test image that you can then use to map your object in 2D.
If you would like to hear more about this 'short cut cheat' let me know
and I'll get into it in detail.

right now I need some sleep!

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Subject: Re: Lightwave on SGI
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SWild19276 ([e-mail]) wrote:
<snip>
: Alias (which we own) and Softimage are great software, to be sure, but you
: just can't model and preview things fast enough with 12 clients in the
: room. LW is an incredible tool for Online modeling and previewing, with

Just curious why you let your clients see you working.  Clients never want
to pay the big bucks anyway, and when they see you working so quickly, it
makes them think it's easy, and lessens the value.  I never let my clients
see me work.  In the area I live, it's just not a good idea.

rgds,
Rob



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Ok, For all of you who are going to Siggraph:

I got to contacting Siggraph late because of some projects I was finishing up,
and was told that the cutoff daate to reserve a room had passed. So I guess
we're back to what we originally planned, that is, maybe get together right
after Siggraph on Wednesday evening, and have dinner somewhere before we
all go to the Avid Media to-do. Sound like a winner?

Problem is I don't know the area well... can anyone recommend a good but
fair-priced restaurant around the convention center area where we can reserve
a banquet room or that has enough seating to accommodate all of us?

While we're at it, I probably need to get an idea of who might want to get
together and do this Wednesday night. If you guys are going, please email me
here and let me know, include your hotel name and ph# if you have it.

Anyone in the LA area want to recommend a good eating place? Preferably
someplace close to where Avid is going to be?

Alan Chan
Vision Digital
(the guy who looks like a goober on Lightspeed #2..)   :)



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Date: 28 Jul 1995 02:01:42 GMT
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Yes, they used wind forces to blow the particles out of the ships way... and
they used Alias to do it.


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From: john bunnell <[e-mail]>
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Also if you keyframe your camera at 0, it won't move when you
load random stars or any other object that is megazillion meters
in size when you load it up.

jmb

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From: ENTHUSIAST
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When will SPACE be first appearing on FOX?


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From: [e-mail] (David Ruigh M3-190 x68713)
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In article <3v9ge6$[e-mail]>, Super-User <root> writes:
|> Yes, they used wind forces to blow the particles out of the ships way... and
|> they used Alias to do it.
|>
(Referring to the Voyager title sequence, with Voyager passing through
dust cloud)

Funny, all the Wavefront guys swear it was done with Dynamation at
Santa Barbara Studios. They even used the scene files from the show
for a demo at the last Alias-Wavefront UG meeting.

Dave

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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:

>I just wanted to thank Michael Comet for putting together the FAQ.  It is much
>needed.  Of course, we can only hope that people choose to read it.

Can you point-out the location of the FAQ please!

>BTW the old newsgroup (comp.graphics.packages.lightwave) has now dropped from
>my newsserver.  R.I.P.

.....apps.lightwave just popped up today on my server - made it just in time!
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   St. Francis Xavier University           "Questions?"
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From: [e-mail] (Vaca)
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    Can anyone please mail me (I don;t read this group often if at
all, sorry to be a freak) a factual comparison between 3ds and lw...
features, price, ease of use, specifics, overall, etc...
    Also, a list of shows each platform has been used in is helpful.
(movies too)

I know some lw

babylon-5,viper,seaquest,vr.5,voyager(i think), etc..

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] ("Glyn Williams") says:
>
> FAT is the same system as Dos/Windows, but NT uses a workaround which
>allows long filenames which are visible to NT applications. In DOS they
>appear as unique but meaningless 8.3 file names.

Actually they're not meaningless.  Most often, it just adds a ~ char.
Here are some pathological examples, as shown with MS-DOS and NTFS
filenames, using the WinNT 'dir /x' command:

 Volume in drive E is WINNT
 Volume Serial Number is 1000-EBC7

 Directory of E:\gr

07/24/95  09:38a        <DIR>                          .
07/24/95  09:38a        <DIR>                          ..
02/11/94  05:51p                   416 123456~1.SCE    12345678901234567890123456789.scene
02/11/94  05:51p                   416 123456~2.SCE    1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789.scene
02/11/94  05:51p                   416 BIGLON~1.SCE    BigLongNameThisIs.scene
07/24/95  09:38a                     0                 foo
03/05/95  08:16p                   664                 LWM.CFG
               7 File(s)          1,912 bytes
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Ummm... yup you're right I was told Alias|wavefront... opps.


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      Why is that I put a triceritops in the middle of a scene with
nothing else, set the light to zero, ambience to zero, and I can
still see it? This test was done on my pc pre-release lightwave on
my dec alpha....
      I tried the same test on my 3.1 version of lightwave on the
amiga... The render is black. (I can't see the tritops....)


      Can someone give me a hand?

[e-mail]



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On 28 Jul 1995, Haresh H wrote:

> [e-mail] (D. W. King) wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone but me see a posting problem here??
> >
> > publish_it@.interramp.com wrote:
> >
> > >HOW TO STOP HAIR LOSS and REGROW HAIR (condensed)**
> > >1995 Infonet communication Inc. (inquiry: [e-mail])
> > >by Mary Sheen, MD
>
>
> Did you have to include the complete article..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I think that this whole thing is a baldfaced lie. I would say more but I
need a little hair of the dog that bit me. Lucky for you I will let you
escape with your scalp intact. Oh Well, hair today... gone...

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>>[e-mail] (PMshark) wrote:
>>>What's the best way to simulate realistic clouds in LW? Would creating a
>>>mass of points in modeler be the best way to go? And if so, is there a
>>>right way to randomize the points to get the desired whispy cloud effect?

There's a pretty descent Fractal Clouds scene on tomahawk, in fact there's 3
different ones in 1 archive. I think it's called LWSky.lha.

If you take those default surfaces and add a Color Fractal texture you have alot of
flexibility in the look of the clouds, I was able to simulate a pretty descent
coastal sunset this way. Another trick for added complexity to the fractal pattern
is to duplicate the cloud planes, tweak the xparency and color patterns and morph
surfaces. This does get render-intensive, do low-res tests until your color,
transparency and velocity is right. Complete your scene, foreground action and (more
importantly) camera motion, then render the clouds seperately and drop the sequence
into the background for the final render.

One of the scenes (EndlessSky?) can give you a good representation of time-lapse
through Texture Velocity.

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The mortal Bill Leonard wrote:
: Why the hell don't you just buy a Mac?

For one thing, LW won't run on a Mac, so there.

For another, don't you realize not everyone has bottomless bank
accounts?  He needs only the Shareware software and a ROM (which, let's
face it, can and is usually gotten for free, legal or not) rather than
buying a whole new platform just to run a few MAC apps on.

If you can't see the logic in this you're messed up.

If you are disturbed that the Amiga can emulate the MAC as well as it
does, and lets you use the Amiga half simultaneously (and once you use
both for a while you start to realize how sucky Mac task switching is
compared to preemtive MT) then get over it.  It does, and the MAC could
never do the reverse.

I don't like the platform wars, but when it starts I'm not going to sit
back and let fellow Amiga users get wrongfully flamed by the ignorant.



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The mortal fstev wrote:
: My sentiments exactly. It kind of makes me wonder if there's a
: creativity problem at work or something. Why waste money/time
: on re-doing a Classic, just because of as change in technology???

Some people are going to continue to think this way no matter how hard
you try to convince them that the analogies just don't hold.  Film is an
imperfect medium and the results are always a compromise of some sort.
Even the 175 mil Waterworld must have had some compromises in it to
please the executives, running time, etc...  Lucas has the power and the
money to do what he wanted BACK IN THE MID 1970s.  It's not like this is
a whim, this is a fulfilling of his original intent.  Orson Welles slaved
for 8 long years to get Othello completed.  Filmmaking isn't necessarily
a fast process, and just because SW was met with huge success doesn't
mean the filmmaker regretted not being able to do this or that.

Lucas is not Ted Turner.  He is not some guy changing the work of a
postumous director's work for financial gain.  He is trying to clean up
his work so that his NEW films will slide in next to them and seem
continuous in quality.  Even Tolkien made some revisions to The Hobbit so
that it would fit in better continuity-wise with the Lord of the Rings
books.  This isn't an unheard of phenomenon.  Uncommon, but not evil.

And just to mention something lightwavey, Lucas says he wants the CGI to
appear as much like it was shot with motion control models.  So that's
something to think about when saying "It's gonna look like B5" because B5
doesn't even TRY to look like Star Wars.  If it did, it would probably
please a lot more people because a lot of people don't seem to like the
reflectivity/glossiness in most of the models.



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I think there must be...I've heard that LightWave PC is
floating around the pirate boards...but it crashes alot on
them..so perhaps they cracked an old beta..or is this NewTeks
revenge on them :)..but in anycase this is alarming...We'll
see how well the dongle works after the final release comes
out...hope the donlge stops the piracy..but they never have
before.

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz
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Items such as those below shouldn't be here.....but
I've been a dBase programmer for about 14 years. When I started
I had a full head of hair. Today, there are only a few patches
remaining.

In <3va6ag$[e-mail]> Haresh H <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>[e-mail] (D. W. King) wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone but me see a posting problem here??
>>
>> publish_it@.interramp.com wrote:
>>
>> >HOW TO STOP HAIR LOSS and REGROW HAIR (condensed)**
>> >1995 Infonet communication Inc. (inquiry: [e-mail])
>> >by Mary Sheen, MD
>
>
>Did you have to include the complete article..
>
>
>
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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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Subject: Re: A4000 For Sale
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In article <3v1jj4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
>
>FOR SALE:
>
>Amiga 4000/040/25mzh
>18 MB Ram
>120 MB IDE Hard Drive
...
>$5500 or best offer
>Price does not include shipping

Hmm.  I've got an A4000 030/25 in the other room, with Toaster 4000,
two 120 meg IDE drives, 18 megs of RAM.

What's it worth these days?

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Subject: WHEN IS SPACE ON FOX?
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                     SPACE above and beyond



                                                           WHEN? ANYONE KNOW?






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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Brad Bowman <[e-mail]> says:
>
>As far as the Amy Bigots weilding large flamethrowers, your last post just
>proves it. Before you go off half-cocked maybe you should find out who you are
>trying to flame.

"A fanatic is one who, upon losing his aim, re-doubles his effort."
- George Santayana

For some reason, this quote made me think of people who think
Escom is going to rescue the Amiga.


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From: [e-mail] (Monte Ohrt)
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The Rendering Plant, Inc. would like to invite you to check out a
virtual interactive demo of Lightwave on the Web.  It allows you to click the
buttons on the interface and see the different requestors within Lightwave.

        While you are there, feel free to browse the rest of our Web site!

        The Virtual Lightwave Demo can be reached from our home page:

http://www.portal.com/~corsa


The site will be growing on a daily basis.  I'm constantly modifying and
adding things.  Feel free to e-mail me for suggestions!

Monte Ohrt ([e-mail])
The Rendering Plant, Inc.


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-----------------------------' Animator/Tech Director
Visit our Web Page!            work: [phone]
http://www.portal.com/~corsa   fax:  [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ian Lancaster) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Ian Lancaster)
>Subject: Re: Thanks for the FAQ
>Date: 28 Jul 95 18:33:48 GMT

>[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:

>>I just wanted to thank Michael Comet for putting together the FAQ.  It is much
>>needed.  Of course, we can only hope that people choose to read it.

>Can you point-out the location of the FAQ please!

>>BTW the old newsgroup (comp.graphics.packages.lightwave) has now dropped from
>>my newsserver.  R.I.P.

>.....apps.lightwave just popped up today on my server - made it just in time!
>--
>   Ian Lancaster                           [e-mail]
>   Manager, Media Services
>   St. Francis Xavier University           "Questions?"
>   Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada

It should be on your news list.  If you don't see it, it may be that your news
server wasn't collecting articles for this group when it was sent.  I have a
copy and will mail it to you.
_________________________________________________________________
Walter (Jay) Turberville   |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Phoenix, AZ                |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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From: [e-mail] (Monte Ohrt)
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Subject: Virtual Lightwave Demo on the Web!
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    Have a look:

http://cse.unl.edu/~mohrt/lightwave


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-----------------------------' Animator/Tech Director
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In box hardly used and unregistered. $650 shipped next day air. This price
is firm.

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: Does anyone know what they used for the intro to Voyager (especially
: the parting clouds) or how they did it?

: Is it just a Voyager image or model composited with parting smoke? That
: would be easy -- and given the ST series penchant for models.. But it doesn't
: look like what I think that'd look like.

: Anyone?

The Voyager ship in that shot is our Digital Voyager (Totally LW). THe
fog bank was done with Wavefront. We sent our rendered footage of the
ship (with interactive lighting to match the colors in the fog) to Santa
Barbara Studios and they comped their fog on top.

JGross
Amblin Imaging

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furthermore the original programmer of the toaster was present
.and i think a flier programmer was there too..i may be wrong
on that one...

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz
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[e-mail] () wrote:
..

> I can't wait until I'm able to network my Amigas to an Alpha and render images out to my Vectrex!!
>
>--
>                                     -David Warner
>                                      Event Horizon Graphics

Do you really have a Vectrex!?! How much would it take for you to part
with it? what games duz you got for it???

(can never have too many game consoles around!)

-rob



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I wrote that the problems with LW PC pre-release wireframe previews and
Windows 3.x fixed-size GDI local heap was a LW bug, and Jay Turberville
said:

> I'm not a programmer, so I won't argue the point.  I guess I have simply
> gotten used to dealing with this shortcoming of Windows over the years.

There's no question this can properly be viewed as a shortcoming of
Windows 3.x.  It's just that it's pretty well known (although not so
well documented), and there are ways of working within it.

- Ernie


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David Warner wrote:

> Thanks Ernie!

My pleasure.

> Now, can you tell me what software uses the .vue motion file format (I'm
> pretty sure it is 3DS) and how does it relate to LightWave's motion file
> format?

I wish I could, but despite appearances, my ignorance is vast.  If I come
across a .VUE in a context that allows me to understand what's in it, and
no one else has answered this question in the meantime, I'll let everyone
know what I find.

- Ernie


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
Subject: Re: the need for speed
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In article <[e-mail]> Tristram Clark <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Tristram Clark <[e-mail]>
>Subject: the need for speed
>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:14:26 GMT

> Does anybody know of any rendering tests results for amigas v p.c
>using lightwave ?

> My current setup consists of a A1200 10 megs with a 33mhz co pro, and i
>and very tempted to buy a p90 8 megs. The A4000 would be nice but i
>think that it would have be a 060 to match the p90 performance. There
>the p90 wins on price but the os is not very flexible and you cannot
>run Dopus (yet)?
> Regarding the pc what is a practical amount of memory to run a pc to
>prevent paging out. I asume a minimum of 16 megs is probably the
>lowest. But after that of memory amount it all gets a bit too
>expensive.
>It seems to me that this subject is not tackled in the general computing
>press, and when they touch on it the answers are usually biased by the
>system they publish for. Or am i reading the wrong mags ?

>cheers tris

Hi. I'm using Lightwave on both the PC and Amiga.
The Amiga is an A4000 040/40 Warp Engine with 56 Megs RAM.
The PC is a Pentium 60 with 64 Megs RAM.

The P60 will render consistently about 2.5 times as fast as the Amiga (I
usually design on the Amiga and then render on the PC - it works well.)

The 060 is supposed to give me 2.5 to 3 times the Warp speed so I guess that
will put it at around P75 speeds.

I hope that helps.

Kevin Gleeson
Hobart Tasmania Australia


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Robert Baldwin ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Do you really have a Vectrex!?! How much would it take for you to part
: with it? what games duz you got for it???

But of course....it's the oldest piece of working computer hardware I own,
although I think I could coax my TI-99/4A into working if I poured a beer or
two into it.  =)

How badly do you want the Vectrex???  I'll trade it for an Alpha workstation
with at least a 21064 processor.  Now there's a deal you can't pass up!  ;-)


: (can never have too many game consoles around!)

Well, I rarely have time for games anymore, but the Vectrex is only a few
feet away from my work area, so it's cool to pop it on for a quick game of
Star Castle every once in a while....I have a bunch of a original cartridges
as well as the multi-cart, which contains every Vectrex game ever released,
and a few that never were released.


My apologies to everyone for the off-topic post, but I figured what better
way to bring this thread to an abrupt stop than a discussion of 14-year old
computers.

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                                     -David Warner
                                      Event Horizon Graphics


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Bell)
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Subject: Dongle Crack?
Date: 28 Jul 1995 15:33:36 GMT
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I want to run LW on both my Desktop and my Laptop. (not at the same time)
both are intel running win32's. Is there a software crack to get around
the dongle. I own the software, and would be happy to prove it, but its
really a pain to rip the dongle off of the back of my desktop every
morning, and replace it at night. I'm also afraid it will get broken on my
laptop.

If anyone has any info, please E-Mail me.

Thanks,
joe

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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: Scenery & LW, make my bird fly thru trees?
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Shane Van Dyk ([e-mail]) wrote:

:     I have old versions of Scenery animator and Vista, would anyone
: reccomend getting World Construction Set2.0?. or the better question
: would be which one can:

Throw them old programs in the garbage revel in the glory that is World
Construction Set!  =)  Seriously though, WCS is an amazing program...I've
barely scratched the surface of it's capabilities but I'm very impressed
with the images I've generated so far.  It's extremely powerful and very
well documented, not to mention an excellent bargain at less than $200!


:     -> create paths that can be transfered into lightwave so that the
:     location of the sun etc. lines up if I use an alpha layer while
:     rendering

World Construction Set does this.


:     ->Which scenery prog would give me the most realistic tropical forest?

Depends on your definition of realistic...VistaPro and Scenery Animator can
generate some nice images, but they just don't compare to WCS's output.
Some of the demo images included with the program are awesome....if realism
is what you're really looking for in your Amiga-generated environmental
animations, then World Construction Set is definitely the program to use.

--
                                     -David Warner
                                      Event Horizon Graphics


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: [e-mail] (D. W. King) wrote:
: >
: > Does anyone but me see a posting problem here??

Nope, no problem whatsoever....that was just a cleverly disguised plug for
Fiber Factory!

      ....or maybe not?

--
                                     -David Warner
                                      Event Horizon Graphics


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i think they said October?????? or around then...but damn..i
gottahand it to Area 51..the animations i saw that night were
mouth dropping...no i did not leave the puddle under the
seat..that was the guy next to me ;)

Adammmmmmmmmm

PS- to all those that i met that night..was fun meeting
you..to those i did not meet..i hope to see you at the next
meeting..WHEN IS THAT????

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz
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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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Subject: Re: Alpha->A2000 HD Question
Date: 28 Jul 1995 23:53:40 GMT
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On 27-Jul-95 00:20:30, J Eric Chard ([e-mail]) posted:

>    My question is: is there some reason an Amiga/PC network would be
>    slower than an Amiga/Amiga network?

Can't speed for PC/Amiga personally, but we have a local LAN of Amigas
using Enlan and one DEC Alpha Raptor3 using TCP/IP hung off of that, and
the Amiga-Amiga speed is about the same as Amiga-Raptor speed. When
transferring frames back and forth, we usually get around 1-2 frames per
second.

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In article <[e-mail]>, John Gross <[e-mail]> wrote:
>The Voyager ship in that shot is our Digital Voyager (Totally LW). THe
>fog bank was done with Wavefront. We sent our rendered footage of the
>ship (with interactive lighting to match the colors in the fog) to Santa
>Barbara Studios and they comped their fog on top.

Hmm.  So the fog is _rendered_.  Looks good.

Thanks for the response.



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From: [e-mail] (Don - Hirschfeld)
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Subject: Is Exploring Lightwave 3D shipping?
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     Does anyone actually own that LW book advertised in VTU
called "Exploring Lightwave 3D"? Is it shipping? Can you give
a mini review?
        Thanks in advance.

                Don



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Subject: Re: Mounting Intel WinNT Hard Drives
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-> NT can format a drive in the standard MS DOS format, or in the NTFS
-> format which is not compatible with MS DOS.  Getting the frames back
-> into your Amiga is going to depend on how the drive is formatted and
-> whether or not CrossDos can read NTFS formatted drives.
CrossDos cannot read NTFS formatted drives. To use a portable drive to
carry frames to an Amiga it must be FAT formatted, the only limitation
being the use of 8.3 file names.

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From: [e-mail] (J Eric Chard)
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WJT writes:
>say how though cuz I don't know.  As a side note, on our Amiga we just render
>directly to the PAR or the Toaster which is preferable for video work since
>NTSC does its own nice things to computer images.  I'm not sure if this is
>possible with a PAR on the PC, but it should be possible with the new
>Perception.

    Not according to my dox.  Frames are to be rendered to system HD, and
    xferred to Perception.

    If I'm wrong, please let me know--but that's what the manual says.



>Walter (Jay) Turberville   |[e-mail]  [e-mail]

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Steve C. writes:
>Dan Bloomfield ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: Those of us at Gorilla Systems are using LW for character animation. We
>: have Animation Master, but gave up on it and went back to LightWave.
>: IMHO the lack of an undo for all the tools in AM was just inexcusable.
>
>Also, the new version of Animation Master has been totally revamped and
>addresses the issue that you had mentioned before. I think that the
>programmers got a headache but it's better for us.


    Hmmmm, that was kinda obscure.  Do you mean there IS now an undo?



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From: [e-mail] (DanMorvec)
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Subject: Lightwave causes baldness.
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I know I've lost plenty of hair since using lightwave.

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From: Colin Cunningham <[e-mail]>
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The easiest and most effective way to do clouds in Lightwave is to use our good
friend, Mr. Fractal noise. Take the upper half of a sphere (a single plane
doesn't work too well, perspective probs) and go into the surfaces menu. Once
there, pick a nice cloud colour and then enter the TRANSPARENCY texture and
slap a fractal noise pattern on it with a TEXTURE VALUE of 100%. This will add
random transparent patches to the dome giving the illusion of clouds. Play with
the SIZE, FREQUENCY and CONTRAST values until you get the desired effect and go
back to the surfaces menu.
     Once there, you can again add a Fractal Noise pattern to the COLOUR
channel (a slightly darker colour than your cloud or whatever you want), and/or
the DIFFUSE channel (make sure that ADDITIVE is highlighted if you do this).
Try this and e-mail me if it doesn't work out.
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From: Colin Cunningham <[e-mail]>
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Good move, you don't wanna work for Dreakworks KFC anyways. They came
recruiting when I was taking Classical Animation (they were looking for
Disney-style animators) and their presentation was so crappy, by the end of it,
nobody wanted to work for them. Who wants to work on a musical version of Moses
anyways? ;-)

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Yeah, I see a problem. Those dorks at interramp think
all of us nerds are bald and ugly! ;)

Notice how they posted to groups that are technically
oriented....?

    -olcay

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In talking about how the fog effect in the Voyager opening was created..
Super-User (root) wrote:
: Yes, they used wind forces to blow the particles out of the ships way... and
: they used Alias to do it.


No. WaveFront was used to part fog. A digital ship finished off the effect.

JGross
Amblin Imaging

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From: [e-mail] (John Zambrano)
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In article <3v53lk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (V Teahan) says:

>
>Of course we should have guessed..... Your from AOL...

"Your from AOL...",  very good grammer.

John.

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You're correct, but it was the same guy who programmed both Flyer and
Toaster.

Yes, the effects for 'Melrose Space' looked very nice! Loved the fighters
- they looked alot like the flying attack drones from the future scenes of
Terminator 2 - the same kind of cool burnished/weathered stainless steel
look!
(Hated those little Battlestar Galactica style space helmets though....At
least they didn't put lights around the visor!! }:^)

It was funny to listen to Paul plug the Trinity system. (Did you notice he
gave us the VC [venture capitalist] spiel? It seemed targeted at people
who were more interested in investing than in buying the product.)

The highlight of the evening for me was hearing Lee say that a
Pentium/Perception system was the best choice for single system buyers.
(I'd just thrown down $8K on my credit card for that configuration 2 days
previous.)

Sorry to say that I'm located up in Alameda, so won't be coming to the
next meeting. (Unless they get someone like Alan Hastings to show up....)

I lived in Santa Cruz for several years. Great town. Beautiful campus.
More starving artists than you could shake a stick at....  :^)

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From: [e-mail] (Candyman)
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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Candyman)

>>>(sniffing the armpit ala kevin kline in "a fish called wanda") i say
>>>"a**hole!!!":-)

>>>we're not bigots,  just right:-)

>>>greg

>> hmm how many platforms can you say You work on? HMm?


>>       Those who perceive the as yet unnamed,are Vagabonds.

>hmmmm....let me see.  at home it's my amigas (ks40.61/wb 3.1) and a dx2/80
>(warp).

>at work sparc station ii, apollo, the occasional mac, and my own "personal"
>piece-o-shit gateway2000 dx2e.

>i r enjinear and  i must use many platforms and op-sys's :-)

>that is all,
>greg


    well then you should be able to see the pros and cons of any
platform. the amiga I love but hell to get it up to a nice flicker free mon
and the speed upgrades, not counting the huge markup compared to anything
you buy hardware wise..
    As stated I love my amiga and when  I can get my alpha to multitask
as good as a ami500 or when I can buy fast rendering power for cheap I
will mayrry one platform but for now the best tools for the job IMHO n e
way..

>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>       --Video Magazine (Nov.1992, p. 30)
>"Manufacturers may have a point when they perceive the U.S. consumer
>    electronics market as unsophisticated." --VideoMaker (March 1993, p. 88)
>I opted for Betamax, the world for VHS. I for Amiga, the world for IBM
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Around a year ago I went to a Lightwave/Toaster users group in, I believe,
Norwood Mass. Scott Weiler was present at the meeting and displayed one of
his animations. If scott reads this, it was when they promoed Alpha Paint.
Since then I have found out that the person running the group had left. I
havn't heard anything about a group in this area since then. Does anybody
know about a lightwave group in easter mass? If not would anybody be
interested in starting one? We seem to have a lot of good animators in the
area.

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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>        Hey it's probably in the manual but I'm at work right now
>and thought of a question.  Is there a way to take some selected polygons
>and un-metaform or simplify them?

>        I am asking because I am trying to find a way to merge to
>different objects together.  ie: do a boolean sub and then at the merger
>points I want them to smoothly flow together.  I figure if I metaform
>several times at the join section  it will start to merge smoothly...but
>I don't want THAT many polys there.  So then I would go back and simplify
>and then re-metaform until I get a smooth joint.

>        Something like sticking a tube into a sphere and then getting
>the sphere/tube to kind bulb up at the point smoothly.

>        Will this work?  Thanks!

>Mike Comet
>[e-mail]


>--  old trick is to use pixpro or any such proggy and specify the poly
density b4 you reconvert back to lw with some tweaking you should abe able
to reduce the count and still keep shape.*8-)

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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>This is a benchmark test. I collected the results form a variety of
>sources. I have only been able to collect one Amiga performance test.

>Machine   OS            RAM   Seg Size   Time
>---------------------------------------------------------
>Raptor3   NT3.5         32M     8.7M     4m  0s (with diskswapping)
>Alpha275M NT3.5         64M     8.26M    5m49s          (Aspen)
>P120      Win3.11Wg     32M     8.7M     12m  6s (no diskswapping)
>P100      NT3.5         64M     8.76M    13m 32s
>P90       NTs3.5        32M     ?        19m
>P90       NT3.51        16M     3M       19m  (Not Paging)
>P90       Win4Wg        32M     ?        19m
>P90       NTs3.5        32M     ?        19m
>P90       NT3.51        16M     9M       20m  (Paging)
>DX4/100   Win4Wg        16M     2.2M     30m
>DX4/100   Win95         16M     2.2M     33m
>DX266     Windows 95    20M     9M       50m  (Paging)
>DX266     Win4Wg         8M     ?        85m
>A4000     (VMEM)        14M     2.2M     110m

>Glyn Williams - Particle Systems Ltd.

  hmm having no 166Mhz alphas up there and now owning one could u send me
the scene file and I will add my 2 cents..


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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>The mortal fstev wrote:
>: My sentiments exactly. It kind of makes me wonder if there's a
>: creativity problem at work or something. Why waste money/time
>: on re-doing a Classic, just because of as change in technology???

>Some people are going to continue to think this way no matter how hard
>you try to convince them that the analogies just don't hold.  Film is an
>imperfect medium and the results are always a compromise of some sort.
>Even the 175 mil Waterworld must have had some compromises in it to
>please the executives, running time, etc...  Lucas has the power and the
>money to do what he wanted BACK IN THE MID 1970s.  It's not like this is
>a whim, this is a fulfilling of his original intent.  Orson Welles slaved
>for 8 long years to get Othello completed.  Filmmaking isn't necessarily
>a fast process, and just because SW was met with huge success doesn't
>mean the filmmaker regretted not being able to do this or that.

>Lucas is not Ted Turner.  He is not some guy changing the work of a
>postumous director's work for financial gain.  He is trying to clean up
>his work so that his NEW films will slide in next to them and seem
>continuous in quality.  Even Tolkien made some revisions to The Hobbit so
>that it would fit in better continuity-wise with the Lord of the Rings
>books.  This isn't an unheard of phenomenon.  Uncommon, but not evil.

>And just to mention something lightwavey, Lucas says he wants the CGI to
>appear as much like it was shot with motion control models.  So that's
>something to think about when saying "It's gonna look like B5" because B5
>doesn't even TRY to look like Star Wars.  If it did, it would probably
>please a lot more people because a lot of people don't seem to like the
>reflectivity/glossiness in most of the models.

 Oh well could be worse at least its not waterworld..:)




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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>In article <3v8e25$[e-mail]> Dan Ablan <[e-mail]> writes:
>>From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: Re: Clouds
>>Date: 27 Jul 1995 16:15:01 GMT

>>[e-mail] (PMshark) wrote:
>>>What's the best way to simulate realistic clouds in LW? Would creating a
>>>mass of points in modeler be the best way to go? And if so, is there a
>>>right way to randomize the points to get the desired whispy cloud effect?


>> Just preference, but, find a really good image of clouds.
>> Something from a PhotoCD perhaps.  Image map that on a
>> LARGE curved polygon.  Set the velocity for the image in
>> whichever direction you think the clouds should move.
>> Then.. you've got real clouds.  Fractals are nice too,
>> but a decent image map is fast and easy...

>> Dan

>I agree with the Fractal suggestion.  Put a Fractal color map on a very
>rectangular polygon and place it parallel to the ground plane (I cheat and
>give the poly a slight tilt so it hits the horizon sooner) - you can get
>realistic clouds.

>I have also created clouds in Vista-Pro and then used them as an image map.
>Fractal patterns slow down rendering, so if you can find the right map, that
>may be preferable.

  Hmm one thing pro toward the image map side is if you make it seamless
youcan loop it unlike any fractal texture.

>_________________________________________________________________
>Walter (Jay) Turberville   |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>Phoenix, AZ                |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>Does anyone but me see a posting problem here??


>publish_it@.interramp.com wrote:


>>HOW TO STOP HAIR LOSS and REGROW HAIR (condensed)**
>>1995 Infonet communication Inc. (inquiry: [e-mail])
>>by Mary Sheen, MD

>>Part 1  Introduction
>>Hair plays a significant role in our life. Another person's hair is one of
>>notice upon meeting. Our own hair is one of the first and last things we
>>or a social engagement. Hair disorder, especially when severe, often
>>those afflicted. Severe hair loss evokes not only cosmetic concerns but may
>>vulnerability (nakedness), loss of self-esteem, alterations in self-image,
>>identity.

>>In 1992, researchers at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia,
>>that 84 percent of the balding men were preoccupied with their loss. They
>>as filled with self-consciousness, helplessness, and envy of men with full
>>and woman who had begun losing hair in their early twenties were more
>>extremely low self-esteem.

>>While stressful, balding isn't the end of the world. Although the men
>>mirror constantly and wearing hats even in warm weather, they manage to
>>daily lives without much problem. For some it even sparked self-improvement
>>with hair styles, working out more, and dressing better. Servey result is
>>chart.
>>How deep does a bald man's anxiety runs?
>>    Reported                     extent of hair los
>>    experience                      low        high
>>    Notice bald/balding men            54%        82%
>>    spend time looking in mirror at hair        54        69
>>    Feel self-conscious                42        78
>>    Look older than actual age            40        55
>>    Worry that others will notice            39        56
>>    worry about aging                37        46
>>    Feel less attractive                31        51
>>    Envy good-looking men                33        34
>>    Try to improve hair style            63        66
>>    Try to improve physique            41        36
>>    dress nicer                    26        45
>>    Wear hats or caps                23        41
>>    Seek reassurance about looks            23        39
>>    Grow a beard or a mustache            18        36

>>Stereotypes associated with baldness are not flattering. A research back in
>>been conducted to investigate how one person was perceived by others can be
>>quantity of scalp hair (regular, balding, and bald) as well as color,
>>Pictures of the same person were presented to 60 judges. Differences in
>>person (ie, experimental conditions of regular, balding, and bald) were
>>modifications made by a commerical artist. The results revealed that the
>>quantity of hair was rated as most handsome, virile, strong, active, and
>>balding head of hair was rated as least potent, weak, dull, and inactive,
>>head of  hair was rated as most unkind, bad, and ugly.  Many other studies
>>discrimination based on a person's appearance (ref )
>>
>>Motivation to avoid baldness is not confined to this century. In 1150 BC
>>pates with fats from ibex, lions, crocodiles, serpents, geese, and
>>society, this aversion is readily evident from the many available remedies
>>hormones, vitamins, hairpieces, wigs, scalp reduction and hair transplants.
>>1983 reveals that over the past 9 years the FDA has overseen the
>>about 300,000 products claimed to help hair regrowth, none of them has any
>>course.

>>The goal of  this book is to provide comprehensive information on how to
>>From this book, you will learn how to preserve what you've got, restore
>>happily with your follocular deficit.

>>Part 2   Get to Know Your Hair
>>The amount of hair and where it grows vary with different mammals.  The
>>the sheep, the cow, and the horse is covered with a hairy coat. The whale
>>have only a few hairs. In humans, hair is not found on palms of the hands
>>The coloration and pattern of coats in animals serve both as a camouflage
>>enemies and as an allurement to mates. Fine and transparent, human hair is
>>hairier animal forbears, that probably evolved from the scales of reptiles.
>>averages five million hairs, of which 100,000 to 150,000 are on the scalp.

>>Hair is composed of keratin, the same protein that makes up nails and the
>>The part seen rising out of the skin is called hair shaft or strand. Each
>>layers. The outermost protective layer (cuticle) is thin and colorless. The
>>the thicknest. It provides strength,  determines your hair color and
>>curly.

>>Hair color is determined by melanin from your pigment cells. The more
>>are, and the more tightly packed, the darker the hair.  Two kinds of
>>color.  Eumelanin colors hair brown to black, and an iron-rich pigment,
>>yellow-blonde to red.  Whether hair is mousy, brown, brunette or black
>>amount of melanin and how densely it's distributed within the hair.  For
>>African hair contains closely packed melanin in the cortex, a few in the
>>European hair, quite apart from having more melanin granules than lighter
>>more melanin per granule. When pigment-producing cells cease to  function,
>>uncolored white or gray hair.

>>Scalp hair varies tremendously between races, between individuals of same
>>an individual. Mongolians have straight hair simply because their scalp
>>thickness and the roundest cross-section. In Caucasians the hair is more
>>Negroes it is flattened, resulting in kinky curls. Mongolians, both male
>>public, axillary, facial, and body hair than Caucasians. In Caucasians,
>>more hair (about 140,000 hair) than brunette (about 105,000) or redhead

>>Below your skin is the hair root which is enclosed by a sack-like structure
>>Tiny blood vessels at the base of the follicle provide nourishment. A
>>mixture of fats (called sebum) which keep the hair shiny and waterproof to
>>from some sweat glands also produce a characteristic odor. A dog can
>>by the typical scent secreted by these glands. Two sets of glands discharge
>>skin.  while sebaceous, or oil, glands arise from the walls of hair
>>called sebum that lubricates the skin and hair, Sweat glands, embedded in
>>layer, are scattered over the body, particularly in the palms and soles.
>>moisture called perspiration that reaches the skin's surface through the
>>cool the body.

>>At the base of the follicle is the papilla, which is the "hair
>>by the blood-stream which carries nourishment to produce new hair. Male
>>regulate hair growth.  Pubic and axillary (armpit) hair are particularly
>>at lower androgen levels than hair on the chest or legs.  In boys, most
>>15, followed by the development of armpit hair two to three years later.
>>androgens at puberty triggers growth of pubic and armpit hair.  Scalp hair,
>>responsive, is influenced by local amounts of a testosterone derivative,

>>Hair follicles initially form in utero.  No new follicles are created after
>>adult life. The first hair to be produced by the fetal hair follicles is
>>and unpigmented. This is usually shed in about the eighth month of
>>The first postnatal hair is vellus hair, which is fine, soft, usually
>>than 2 cm long. Vellus hair remains on the so-called hairless regions of
>>forehead and balding scalp.
>>At puberty, the vellus hair in some areas is replaced by terminal hair,
>>pigmented. Growth starts in the pubic region; then the eyelashes and
>>Axillary hair and male facial hair appear about two years after growth of
>>hair continues to develop long after puberty, stimulated by male hormones
>>cause terminal hair to be replaced by vellus hair when balding begins.

>>Scalp hair fibers grow from 100,000 to 350,000 follicles which are reported
>>scalp; however, not all the follicles are productive.[1] In each producing
>>hair's life cycle is influenced by age, pathology and a wide variety of
>>life cycle is divided into the anagen (active), catagen (transitional) and

>>The anagen phase is the period of active hair growth where protein
>>are continuously occurring. In normal subjects, this phase lasts for up to
>>longer durations have been documented.

>>The cessation of the anagen phase is characterized by a transitory phase
>>phase lasts for two to three weeks.

>>Following the catagen phase, the hair enters the telogen or "resting"
>>telogen hair is retained within the scalp for up to 12 weeks before the
>>it from its follicle.

>>During the anagen phase, protein s thesis is the main distinction of the
>>phase, the dermal papilla undergoes renewal. It is at this time that
>>modified. The new hair should be identical to its predecessor, but with
>>some pathological states, a strict copy is not maintained. In these
>>become finer and shorter, modifying the esthetic profile. Since these
>>cycles, years may elapse before the affected individual recognizes the

>>Like skin cells, hair grows and is shed regularly.   Shedding anywhere from
>>day is considered normal. The average rate of growth is about 1/2 inch a
>>that hair grows fastest in the summer, slowest in the winter, speeds up
>>slows down when exposed to cold. Hair grows the best between the ages of 15
>>growth begins to wind down sometime between the ages of 40 and 50.
>>begins naturally in both sex about age 50, accelerating in the 70s. About
>>men lose hair to some extent by age 35.

>>What cause hair loss? can we do something about it? we will discuss these
>>chapters.

>>Hair Loss, Men and Women

>>Androgenic alopecia
>>By far the most common form of hair loss is determined by our genes and
>>as androgen-dependent, androgenic, or genetic hair loss. It  is the largest
>>recognizable alopecia to affect both men and women. It is estimated that
>>Caucasian females are affected before menopause. Other commonly used names
>>loss include common baldness, diffuse hair loss, male or female pattern

>>1. Male Pattern Baldness (MPB)

>>Signs and Symptoms

>>* Receding hairline
>>* Moderate to extensive loss of hair, especially on the crown

>>2. Female pattern Baldness (FPB)

>>Signs and Symptoms

>>* General thinning of hair all over the head
>>* Moderate loss of hair on the crown or at hairline

>>MPB is the hair loss most frequently encountered. It usually starts with
>>which gradually recedes to form an "M" shape.  You also may find your hair
>>grow as long as it once did. The hair on the crown of your head begins to
>>the top points of the "M" meet the thinned spot on your crown. Over time,
>>shoe pattern of hair around the sides of your head. Any remaining hair in
>>manifests some miniaturization - it is thinner and grows at a below-normal
>>long, thick, coarse, pigmented hair into fine, unpigmented sprouts.

>>Female pattern baldness usually begins about age 30, becomes noticeable
>>may be even more noticeable after menopause.  Female hair loss is usually
>>two hairs where five used to be--rather than a bald area on top of the
>>have a receding hairline, too.  It's thought that about 20 million American
>>loss.  As in males, hair follicles simply shut down, with hormones playing

>>The mechanism of balding

>>The rate of hair shedding in androgenic alopecia is speeded up by three
>>inherited tendency to bald early, and an over-abundance of the male hormone
>>(DHT) within the hair follicle.  DHT is a highly active form of
>>aspects of manly behavior, from sex drive to aggression. The conversion
>>is driven by an enzyme called 5-alpha reductase, which is produced in the
>>adrenal glands, and the scalp. Over time, the action of DHT causes the hair
>>shortens the anagen phase. Thought the follicle is technically still alive
>>blood supply--it can successfully nurture a transplanted follicle which is
>>DHT--it will grow smaller and smaller (figure 3). Some follicles will
>>simply shrink to the size they were when you were born which produce weaker
>>steadily shorter anagen growing cycle, more hairs are shed, the hairs
>>thinner until they are too fine to survive daily wear and tear.  Balding
>>long, thick, coarse, pigmented hair into fine, unpigmented vellus sprouts.

>>However, the sebaceous gland attached to it remains the same size.  As the
>>smaller, the gland continues to pump out about the same amount of oil.  So
>>will notice that your hair becomes flatter and oilier.

>>Other physiological factors might cause hair loss. Recently, a group of
>>reported a correlation between excessive sebum in the scalp and hair loss.
>>accompanying thinning hair is attributed to an enlargement of the sebaceous
>>excessive sebum causes an high level of 5-alpha reductase and pore
>>of the hair root.

>>Although this condition could be hereditary, they believe diet is a more
>>researchers note that Japanese hair was thick and healthy, with a small
>>until the occidental habit of consuming animal fat crept into their diet
>>change has led to a significant height increase in the Japanese population,
>>in more Japanese men losing hair. To some extent, their observation makes
>>problems with greasy hair have often been noted as much as six months to a
>>thinning hair becomes noticeable, but this might be just one of the
>>cause, more research is needed. Most doctors agree  that  If you have a
>>hair, frequent shampooing is advised. shampooing can reduce surface sebum,
>>high levels of testosterone and DHT that may reenter the skin and affect


>>Treatment for Male Pattern Baldness
>>Balding men and women seem to go to almost any lengths to regrow thinning
>>inherited balding in either sex has not responded well to any anti-balding
>>injections, or other treatments.  Specific foods or vitamins don't regrow
>>nutrition is essential for healthy hair.

>>Antiandrogen Therapy

>>In the United Kingdom, the most commonly used anti-androgen for women is
>>acetate) in combination with ethinyl-estradiol. In the United States, where
>>aldosterone antagonist spironolactone has been given in dosages from 75 to
>>some benefit. However, higher doses (150 to 200 mg per day) appear
>>significant increase in cosmetically useful hair, as occurs with CPA

>>Anti-androgen treatment must be continued for at least 12 months. Often two
>>before a subjective improvement is observed.

>>Complete reversal of the hair loss can never be achieved unless treatment
>>years of its onset. This is probably due to the atrophy of the miniaturized
>>The degree of benefit observed is dependent upon the subject's age and the
>>however, most patients are satisfied with the thought that no further hair
>>improvement in hair  quality should be expected in all cases, although
>>results in further progression of the alopecia.

>>Nonhormonal aspects are critical to ensure an optimal therapeutic response
>>need to maintain vitamin and serum ferritin levels above values previously
>>recently been demonstrated.

>>The side effects of oral CPA therapy in combination with ethinyl-estradiol
>>are similar to those associated with other oral contraceptive regimens.
>>menstrual cycle and increases menstrual bleeding in some patients; but, in
>>tolerated.

>>To understand how these hormonal remedies work, you need to know a little
>>of several male hormones, called androgens, that compete for a berth on the
>>sites.  In principle, if you could keep the receptor busy metabolizing
>>progesterone, DHT would never have a chance to move in and start shrinking
>>researched based on this concept have made little progress over the past
>>hurdle: to limit the effects of the androgen blocker to the scalp only. If
>>around the body, a male will lose his sex drive and develop a vocal
>>teenage girl's. Blocking the activities of DHT in female who have hair loss
>>problematic. Spironolactone or Aldactone  does just that, and very

>>Rogaine

>>By far the most publicized medical treatment available for male pattern
>>(Rogaine). The idea of using minoxidil topically to grow hair was
>>originally developed to treat high blood pressure and had the unanticipated
>>stimulating hair growth, sometimes in unwanted areas. This observation led
>>topical minoxidil on balding areas of the scalp. Since its introduction in
>>manufacturer, sells about $150 million worth of the drug each year, even
>>back hair is, at best, modest.

>>A large-scale clinical trial involved over 2,300 participants with male
>> was carried out by having 1,547 patients apply 1 ml of 2% or 3% minoxidil
>>1 ml of placebo ( no active ingradients, only alcohol and propylene glycol)
>>balding area. Actual counts of vellus hairs, indeterminate hairs, and
>>patch were made before and after treatment.  At 4 months, 5% to 8% of
>>marked hair growth on the balding vertex of the scalp. This figure is
>>the number of men who regrow hair in response to a plcaebo. another 15% to
>>some growth of vellus hair on the balding area.  At 12 months, 39% of
>>marked hair growth, while 11% of those using placebo reported an increase
>>result shows that you to used minoxidil for more than 4 months in order to
>>treatment works for you.

>>Who is the best candidate for this drug? research showed that you have to

>>1) young man (20 to 30 years old), who only recently (within 5 years) had
>>2) not completely bald, and
>>3) not bald at the temples

>>This drug works best on small areas of vertex baldness (smaller than 1
>>There is no evidence that topical minoxidil could regenerate hair on the
>>Topical minoxidil was as effective at a concentration of 2% as at 3%. A 1%
>>effective.

>>Successful treatment, however, does require a lifetime commitment. The
>>applied to the balding area twice a day, every day. Decreasing the dosage
>>some hair loss, and discontinuing application causes  regression to
>>3 to 6 weeks. The cost?  Anywhere between $600 to $1,000 a year, depending
>>area to be treated.

>>Why minoxidil works remain a mystery. It is know  to be a powerful
>>dilate blood vessels do not promote hair growth. It is postulated that it
>>follicles' entry into the next anagen phase for long periods of time and
>>into active production.  But this theory remains to be vindicated.

>>The disadvantages of minoxidil are: 1) lifetime commitment; 2) high cost :
>>health insurance schemes as it's considered a cosmetic; 3)Its side effects;
>>prickling, headaches (in 40 per cent), dizzy spells and, in some, heartbeat
>>apparently safe when rubbed into the scalp - since little is absorbed into
>>vasodilator and not recommended for anyone with heart trouble. Its safety
>>its long-term safety remain unknown. Some scientists believe that minoxidil
>>preventing hair loss than in promoting regrowth, but no controlled trials

>>At the time of writing this book, the only away you can obtain rogaine is
>>prescription. That could be changed soon. Upjohn is confident it will
>>the drug over the counter.

>>Meanwhile, researchers are working on ways to make minoxidil work better
>>other avenues.

>>Increasing the concentration of minoxidil from its prescribed 2 percent
>>in some cases has produced a 10 percent increase in hair growth.  Enhancing
>>Retin-A also has improved hair growth in some experiments.  You can't find
>>pharmacies (they are available in Europe), but some dermatologists over
>>pharmacists prepare these mixtures.
>>Check around.

>>Other proposed nonsurgical baldness remedies

>>One anti-androgenic drug now being tried as a baldness remedy is oral
>>5-alpha reductase (enzyme) that transforms testosterone into the
>>responsible for hair loss. Blocking the action of DHT seems to stimulate
>>and more pigmented hair. In one multicentre study, 200 males aged 18 to 35
>>baldness had a one-inch circle of scalp shaved and periodically examined
>>report states that "men taking 5 mg per day of oral finasteride had
>>growth. Side effects - such as impotence, loss of libido and reduced sperm
>>widespread, and often decreased with time, affecting about three per cent
>>candidates for finasteride treatment are men who have already
>>fathered all the children they wish, as its use for baldness might be
>>fetus conceived (while taking it). Further studies are needed to assess the
>>and long-term safety. Another dihydrotestosterone-inhibitor now being
>>hyaluronic acid, the chemical at the tip of sperm that aids penetration of
>>Massaged into the scalp, this substance apparently blocks the androgenic
>>loss, but more research is needed.

>>Medical researchers in Asia believe that hair loss is caused mainly by
>>the scalp. The other possibility is excessive  sebum in the scalp which
>>malnutrition in the hair root( "sebaceous Gland Hypothesis", proposed by
>>The Inaba Aesthetic Surgery in Tokyo).  The so-called 101 hair regrowth
>>attack the problems. 101 became famous after it had won several
>>them, "gold medal" from 14th  International Inventors Exposition in New
>>According to Dr. Zhuang-Guang Zhao, the inventor, 101 promotes blood
>>blood stasis in the scalp and dilating the blood capillaries, it  also
>>Unlike other  treatments, it has no side effects, the  active compounds in
>>from plants,  According to Newsweek and New York Times reports (references
>>is no questioning its popularity with the 3 million bald folks in Japan.
>>Japanese singer, said recently on the radio
>>that the product worked wonders on his head. Millions of men and women in
>>used 101 and 90 percent are said to have found it  effective in hair
>>reduction of hair loss. According to a spokesperson for the 101 products
>>called Fabao 101D will be introduced to USA this year. But will 101D work
>>(Interested reader can obtain a copy of brochure
>>by writting to: Pan State Health Products, Division of Hair Care, 155-21
>>11355, or e-mail: [e-mail])

>>Other types of  Hair Loss and treatments
>>Alopecia Areata
>>Sudden hair loss most commonly is due to alopecia areata, a condition that
>>population and affects all races and bothsexes equally. Alopecia areata
>>more circular  patches of hair loss, up to 3 inches across, that may
>>normally occur on the scalp but occasionally elsewhere on the body, such as
>>eyebrows. The bald areas are smooth and painless.

>>Alopecia areata is thought to be an autoimmune disease and strongly
>>diabetes. Patients with Down syndrome are especially prone to the disease.

>>In 90% of the cases, the hair grows back within 6 to 24 months. The outcome
>>episode occurs early in life or if you lose all scalp hair in a single

>>To diagnose alopecia areata, your doctor will perform a complete medical
>>The treatment of alopecia areata depends on the extent of the disease.
>>intralesional steroids are a common form of treatment, which usually hasten
>>months. New topical forms of treatment include dinitrochlorobenzene (which
>>anthralin 0.2% (anthra-Derm, Lasan, the only irritant subsistence), or
>>A (PUVA). These treatment act by inducing an allergic contact dermatitis
>>promotes hair growth by a mechanism that is not fully understood.
>>to 12 weeks.

>>Topical minoxidil may be effective in alopecia areata, especially when used
>>concentrations that are currently available only on a study protocol basis.
>>(2%, Rogaine) are primarily effective in patchy alopecia areata.

>>Telogen Effluvium

>>Telogen effluvium is a form of abrupt, rapid, diffuse hair loss. This
>>scalp, but the crown and bitemporal areas may appear to be mainly involved
>>androgenic alopecia.

>>In telogen effluvium, there is an abrupt end to the anagen phase, so that
>>into catagen, then telogen. It is rarely severe and does not usually lead
>>condition is chronic and many generations of hair are lost, it may
>>loss.

>>The  common causes of telogen effluvium include
>>1) stress, especially after severe infection, fever, childbirth or surgery;
>>2) Severe psychogenic distress;
>>3) nutritional deficiencies;
>>4) various medications
>>The hair loss seen after childbirth is the protype of telogen effluvium.
>>birth, women often complain of hair loss that can be extensive. This is a
>>physical stress causes anagen hairs to switch abruptly into the telogen
>>retained for an average of 3 months before being shed.
>>Since this type of hair loss is temporary, the only  therapy from your
>>reassurance.
>>New Treatments Now Under Study That Promise Hair Growth
>>Here is another story quite like that of Rogaine. ProCyte,  based  in
>>the  hair-growing effects of peptide copper in 1990 when it was testing the
>>healing agent on laboratory mice,  whose  fur  had been shaven.  "The mouse
>>healing, but the hair  was  growing,"  (continued in part 2)



    Hmm and I though Jon was getting creative in the Fibre factory ads :)



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>Throw them old programs in the garbage revel in the glory that is World
>Construction Set!  =)  Seriously though, WCS is an amazing program...I've
>barely scratched the surface of it's capabilities but I'm very impressed
>with the images I've generated so far.  It's extremely powerful and very
>well documented, not to mention an excellent bargain at less than $200!

 Just had to agree, wcs roxs only doesnt do the stereoscopic rendering
yet..
>



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J Eric Chard ([e-mail]) wrote:
:     It's dongled for a reason.

:     If you want to make it easier, simply get an extension cord to move the
:     dongle up to your desktop.  Laptop, hey, you're on your own.

   The extension is a great idea, simple enough that it never occurred to
me :)  I'd like to find a 100% dongle crack myslef due to the fact that I
often have to transport my amiga system to studios for output to video
from my PAR.  I hate having to unplug the dongle for transit, then plug
it in on site if for some reason I need to get into LW.  Having that
dongle in my pocket can get a bit scary (I'm more worried about loosing
that than my car keys).

    I see the legitmate need for dongles due to the priacy issue, but
as a letitimate user, I'd like to have a bit of a safety buffer for my
financial investment in the software.  As a registered user, I know that
I can prolly get a dongle replacement if I actually did loose it, but the
days of down time (waiting for a replacement) cost cost more than buying
a fresh copy of LW!

   Gregg Lukomski
    Digital Design Lab
    Orlando, FL



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>I want to run LW on both my Desktop and my Laptop. (not at the same time)
>both are intel running win32's. Is there a software crack to get around
>the dongle. I own the software, and would be happy to prove it, but its
>really a pain to rip the dongle off of the back of my desktop every
>morning, and replace it at night. I'm also afraid it will get broken on my
>laptop.

    It's dongled for a reason.

    If you want to make it easier, simply get an extension cord to move the
    dongle up to your desktop.  Laptop, hey, you're on your own.


>joe
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Hello, I am looking for a used TBCIV to work with my PAR card to
capture live video.

Please Email me at [e-mail] if you have one to sell.

Thanks,

Shawn



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jhilem41,
here's some approaches for you.

try backlighting the object from 45degree angles both in front and back
of the object (135degrees and 225degrees if the camera is at zero)
this should put a thin white line along the edges of the figure, and
will create a wall between the tapering shadow on the figure and the
background - preventing the background from bleeding into the shadow.
give the lite a bluish/cyan cast to make it less forceful.

also -try a solid blue 0 0 255 backdrop color and when you set options
in procontrol/apro, set dither options to OFF. (floyd-steinberg dither
will almost always aggravate your problem by "studding" the edges )

the "long way" is:

render an alpha and convert it to a 1bit anim.
in Dpaint pick it up as an animbrush and use it as a cookie-cutter over
your normal image.(the alpha is "object information" if you dont
anti-alias/motionblur etc.)

of course the real bitch about sprites is that they usually have to sit
on both light and dark backgrounds, and this makes antialiasing
difficult-slash-impossible. and antialiasing is what makes CGI not look
computery - that york peppermint patty feeling.

hope this blurt was of some help.
c.bianco


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does anyone out there know of an elastic reality newsgroup.
please email or post. thanks a million


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John Foust ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >FOR SALE:
: >Amiga 4000/040/25mzh
: >$5500 or best offer

: Hmm.  I've got an A4000 030/25 in the other room, with Toaster 4000,
: two 120 meg IDE drives, 18 megs of RAM.
: What's it worth these days?

Geez...judging by the previous post, I'd say at LEAST $10,000...by the time
you add in shipping, you're talking about enough money to buy a 21164 Alpha
workstation!  You better hang on to it though, I hear they become worth more
as they get older...like a fine wine, ya know?  =)

Then again, maybe the guy's "5" key got stuck and he really meant "$500 or
best offer"....

              .....feeling rather sadistic tonight....

--
                                     -David Warner
                                      Event Horizon Graphics


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Just wanted to say that "YES", there will be a lot of great character
animation stuff on the way for Lightwave, not only with what has been
already improved for the final 4.0 release, but with some new plugins I'm
working on in both animation and modeling.

So rest assured. If I say its coming. Its coming.

Fori Owurowa
(FreeForm 3D Bspline Modeler) and now, NEW MEMBER OF THE
NEWTEK LIGHTWAVE TEAM.



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John Hileman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: This test was done on my pc pre-release lightwave on
: my dec alpha....

:       Can someone give me a hand?


Hmmm....if you've somehow figured out how to run the PC version of LightWave
on an Alpha workstation then you deserve a hand!

I don't know why you're having the described lighting problems, but it may
have something to do with the fact that you need to run the Alpha version
of LightWave on an Alpha workstation, and the PC version of LightWave on
a PC....they're NOT interchangeable, and they ARE sold seperately.

--
                                     -David Warner
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Hi.

I'm wondering whether anyone has dealt with fluids in LW; for instance,
pouring liquid from a bottle.

I can't think of a way of doing it, let alone easily doing it.

If not, what would be my next best package to do it - 3DS? (PC or Amiga until
I can afford an alpha).

Thanks in advance.

Kevin Gleeson
Hobart Tasmania Australia

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <3vb00g$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joe Bell) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Joe Bell)
>Subject: Dongle Crack?
>Date: 28 Jul 1995 15:33:36 GMT

>I want to run LW on both my Desktop and my Laptop. (not at the same time)
>both are intel running win32's. Is there a software crack to get around
>the dongle. I own the software, and would be happy to prove it, but its
>really a pain to rip the dongle off of the back of my desktop every
>morning, and replace it at night. I'm also afraid it will get broken on my
>laptop.

>If anyone has any info, please E-Mail me.

>Thanks,
>joe

This is what I do.  I have one of those flat switch boxes that have an
integrated cable.  I attach the cable to my LPT1 parallel port and bring the
"switch" portion around the side of my tower.  This switch portion has two 23
pin female D connectors.  I mount the switch to the side of my tower with that
super stickey double side foam tape sold at the drugstore for mounting a
variety of things (clean all surfaces with rubbing alchohol for better
adhesion) so that one of the ports is facing forward, the switch (push button
type) is facing up and the other connector is facing back.  The printer goes
on the back facing connector.  I can then switch to the printer, mount the
dongle, switch to the dongle and go.  It really isn't a great idea to attach
anything to a powered up PC, but so far I have had no problems.  I have a
little felt yo-yo pouch ( felt on outside only - no fuzzballs inside) that I
use to carry the dongle around.  I would prefer a hard case, but haven't seen
something that is compact that would work.

Anyway,  it is a minor investment and has worked for me so far.


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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (J Eric Chard) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (J Eric Chard)
>Subject: Re: Lightwave - Intel - Final?
>Date: 28 Jul 1995 20:20:09 -0700

>WJT writes:
>>say how though cuz I don't know.  As a side note, on our Amiga we just render
>>directly to the PAR or the Toaster which is preferable for video work since
>>NTSC does its own nice things to computer images.  I'm not sure if this is
>>possible with a PAR on the PC, but it should be possible with the new
>>Perception.

>        Not according to my dox.  Frames are to be rendered to system HD, and
>        xferred to Perception.

>        If I'm wrong, please let me know--but that's what the manual says.

Well - if the manual says so . . .

I was making an assumption based on the Perception software being written for
NT (or am I wrong there too?).  If it is not possible, it is certainly a
feature they should seriously consider adding.
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In article <3vck56$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
>From: [e-mail] ()
>Subject: Re: INTEL, Ami, or Alpha?
>Date: 29 Jul 1995 06:23:34 GMT

>Robert Baldwin ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: Do you really have a Vectrex!?! How much would it take for you to part
>: with it? what games duz you got for it???

>But of course....it's the oldest piece of working computer hardware I own,
>although I think I could coax my TI-99/4A into working if I poured a beer or
>two into it.  =)

>How badly do you want the Vectrex???  I'll trade it for an Alpha workstation
>with at least a 21064 processor.  Now there's a deal you can't pass up!  ;-)


>: (can never have too many game consoles around!)

>Well, I rarely have time for games anymore, but the Vectrex is only a few
>feet away from my work area, so it's cool to pop it on for a quick game of
>Star Castle every once in a while....I have a bunch of a original cartridges
>as well as the multi-cart, which contains every Vectrex game ever released,
>and a few that never were released.


>My apologies to everyone for the off-topic post, but I figured what better
>way to bring this thread to an abrupt stop than a discussion of 14-year old
>computers.

>--
>                                     -David Warner
>                                      Event Horizon Graphics

Guess again.  Star Castle (the arcade version) was the only arcade game I ever
managed to completely conquer. I didn't know there was a non-arcade version.

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
>Subject: fluids in LW
>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 13:38:08 LOCAL

>Hi.

>I'm wondering whether anyone has dealt with fluids in LW; for instance,
>pouring liquid from a bottle.

>I can't think of a way of doing it, let alone easily doing it.

>If not, what would be my next best package to do it - 3DS? (PC or Amiga until
>I can afford an alpha).

>Thanks in advance.

>Kevin Gleeson
>Hobart Tasmania Australia

We just got through doing a pretty nice liquid "pour" from an indian pot.  We
used a combination of a morph, a displacement map, a bump map and a little
bones action.  It came out very believable.  Of course, the pot (olla) wasn't
transparent which simplified things a bit.  We also "poured" into a pool of
water which meant we didn't have to deal with any accumulation of water
anywhere.



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: This test was done on my pc pre-release lightwave on
: my dec alpha....

hmm if you've somehow figured out how to run the PC version of
LightWave
>on an Alpha workstation then you deserve a hand!
>
>I don't know why you're having the described lighting problems,
but it may
>have something to do with the fact that you need to run the Alpha
version
>of LightWave on an Alpha workstation, and the PC version of
LightWave on
>a PC....they're NOT interchangeable, and they ARE sold seperately

  Excuse me...   I apologize for the mis terminoligy... I am new to
the MS dos world.  On my :   Dec Alpha compiled windows NT version
of lightwave.  :)    In the future I will try to be more
technically correct in my posts.  And the lighting problem is a
real one...  I have an amiga 3000 running 3.1 lightwave, and It
does not have the same problem...

  Could someone with a Dec Alpha do this?
        Load in the triceritops.  Turn the light intesity down to
zero.  Turn the ambient light down to zero.  render it... and tell
me if you can still see the sillohette of the triceritops.

Thank you...


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As you can see, by the prev. replies to your msg, the pc does render
faster.  The one thing you will notice right away on the pc is cost.
Peripherals on the pc are less costly than on the amiga, and you see less
proprietary madness.  A serial port setup on the amiga can cost you up to
$350 or higher where you can get high speed UARTs for under $100.
All things considered, the pc action is truly a better buy.

JP



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In article <3un6rl$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (SWild19276) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (SWild19276)
>Subject: Lightwave on SGI
>Date: 20 Jul 1995 23:27:49 -0400

>Well, I just called Newtek to ask (again) about the status of Lightwave on
>the SGI.  They just moved the release date back to "mid-August".

>     Sigh...The wait continues...

Newtek will get smoked at Siggraph for not having it completed yet! Damn good
thing I have Alias. I just wanted the SGI version to render all these
raytraced scenes  that have been waiting on my Amiga since Dec.

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Markish boyperson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Markish boyperson)
>Subject: perception nt drivers-when available?
>Date: 24 Jul 95 23:42:29 EST

>        Lee, or anyone that is in the position to know, or who
>has been told by dps.  Exactly when are the nt drivers going
>to be ready for the perception.  Thanks a lot for any help.
>        Mark [e-mail]


I was told 4 to 8 weeks, which is 4 to 8 weeks longer than I can wait.

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Subject: Re: FINALLY!!! NewTek adds are elsewhere!!!
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In article <3v6oet$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (PMshark) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (PMshark)
>Subject: Re: FINALLY!!! NewTek adds are elsewhere!!!
>Date: 26 Jul 1995 21:00:13 -0400

>Yes, yahoo.  And I think I also saw a NewTek ad in Digital Video. It's
>good for them to get into other magazines and start reaching more of the
>masses.
>PJ
>[e-mail]
>Visual Designer

>"Look and you will find it--what is unsought will go undetected"
>SOPHOCLES


So the ads are out, now how about delivering as advertised?

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In article <3v8dte$[e-mail]> Dan Ablan <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Gate to the minds Eye..
>Date: 27 Jul 1995 16:12:29 GMT

>[e-mail] (V Teahan) wrote:

>>       Has anybody seen the video Gate to the Mind Eye. I must say it is
>>extremely good. Can some one who knows about it tell me if Quantum
>>Mechanic was done in LightWave SGI or even Amiga. I wonder because its is
>>very lightwaveish (LIghtwave Does have a certain look, as good as it
>>maybe though..) Did they use LightWave...


>     At the end of the tape, there is complete listings
>     of who produced each animation.  Your best bet,
>     and most reliable, would be to call the company
>     responsible for the animation.

>     Dan

Well it's obvious that they used the Humanoid objects for the animation, but
as for LW who can tell withall  the strobe lights?


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>Does anyone but me see a posting problem here??

>...

Of course, but we don't compound the problem by quoting the entire off-topic
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--
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Will an extension cord work with the LightWave dongle?!?

I tried putting my LW dongle on a switchbox (since it interefered with
GPFax on my Amiga), but it just would not work!

Haven't tried on the PC, since it has more than one parallel port.......

Thanks!

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From: [e-mail] (Hardin Brett Arvid)
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Rob K. Williams (scorpio@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE) wrote:

| Does anyone know much about a magazine called 3D Artist?  I'm thinking bout a subscription but would like to know a little more
| about the magazine.

I have seen a few copies, and my partner has read it quite a bit.  It is
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have seen from the magazine is impressive.

By the way, we are starting a new magazine that will specialize in
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:   Could someone with a Dec Alpha do this? :  Load in the triceritops.
Turn the light intesity down to : zero.  Turn the ambient light down to
zero.  render it... and tell : me if you can still see the sillohette of
the triceritops.

I just tried this with a ball and it works fine. Is your background solid
black, or is it lighter? If lighter there's your problem...

(There may have been a bug in the prerelease version, but the one I have
now is working fine)

JG

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  I have Pre-Release 4.0 Intel. I get the outline of the
object even when light is 0 and ambient is 0.

 BUT, if you go to surfaces menue and change iffues to 0..then
there will be no outline visible.

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>>  As a side note, on our Amiga we just render
>>directly to the PAR or the Toaster which is preferable for video work since
>>NTSC does its own nice things to computer images.  I'm not sure if this is
>>possible with a PAR on the PC, but it should be possible with the new
>>Perception.


The PC PAR will do this, but as yet (as far as I can see) the PVR does not. (I would love this
feature back)

TO DPS:

A couple of other features I would like to see back are:  Append, Join, and move.  I know that
Append and join aren't really necessary anymore as the PVR will jump seamlessly between anim
files during playback but it really would be nice to, after rendering an animation in nightly
chunks (or even editing a commercial) to join it into one "file" that shows up on the file list,
and not have to load up a playlist for each animation sequence.  Also move seems to be missing.
 Unless I am missing something, once a file is in a project, thats that, it stays.  You don't
even seen to be able to copy a file to another project and then delete the original (you can
copy within a project, just not between projects).




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On 27 Jul 1995 [e-mail] wrote:
> Ok, For all of you who are going to Siggraph:
>
> Problem is I don't know the area well... can anyone recommend a good but
> fair-priced restaurant around the convention center area where we can reserve
> a banquet room or that has enough seating to accommodate all of us?
>
> While we're at it, I probably need to get an idea of who might want to get
> together and do this Wednesday night. If you guys are going, please email me
> here and let me know, include your hotel name and ph# if you have it.
>
> Anyone in the LA area want to recommend a good eating place? Preferably
> someplace close to where Avid is going to be?



Okay Alan,  when you know approximately how many people are going to go,
double that figure and then call or mail me and I'll make reservations
somewhere.  I'm a ways from where all this will be going down but I'll
find some place that should work.


> > Alan Chan > Vision
>Digital > (the guy who looks like a goober on Lightspeed #2..)   :)


Is that what a "goober" looks like?  Geeez, then there sure are a lot of
"goobers" everywhere I look. Hehe.

I posted this sime time back in the mailing list, but I don't think I
ever posted it here:

If you have a lightwave tutorial you would like to see in a future issue
of LIGHTSPEED or if you want to produce a tutorial yourself, please call
or e-mail me, as we are looking for a few off'n'on tutorialists (Just
like Alan did)!

Take Care,

Manuel Coats
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J Eric Chard ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Steve C. writes:
: >Dan Bloomfield ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >
: >: Those of us at Gorilla Systems are using LW for character animation. We
: >: have Animation Master, but gave up on it and went back to LightWave.
: >: IMHO the lack of an undo for all the tools in AM was just inexcusable.
: >
: >Also, the new version of Animation Master has been totally revamped and
: >addresses the issue that you had mentioned before. I think that the
: >programmers got a headache but it's better for us.


:     Hmmmm, that was kinda obscure.  Do you mean there IS now an undo?

*chuckle* YES!

I know exactly what you're talking about. In v2 there was no undo in
character and that forced me to use saves to return to previous
conditions. I didn't like it.

The program is now integrated now so there is no need to leave the
environment of one section to work on another. They are all seamed
together. In addition, changes in one section will immediately show up in
the other sections if applicable. And undo is in the central environment
and therefore is present in all sections (modules).

I hope that's more specific :)

-Steve C.


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can someone help me on the font for lightwave called 'HARVESTFTAL'
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Manuel Coats <[e-mail]> wrote:






>Okay Alan,  when you know approximately how many people are going to go,
>double that figure and then call or mail me and I'll make reservations
>somewhere.  I'm a ways from where all this will be going down but I'll
>find some place that should work.


Well I think the best thing is to set up a meeting at the Show either
at the VTU booth or Newtek booth on the first day..   I think the
show goes untill about 5:00 so we could set up for people to start
gathering around 4:30 at either booth depending on which we
want them to go.. Then take it from there..

The convention center is on the border of good and bad lands :)
dont cross the highway :)  There are several places to eat.. I think
a good one would be "The Dive" the steven spielberg restraunt.
Its in the shape of the sub.. pretty cool looking..

anyway...


Steve


>> > Alan Chan > Vision
>>Digital > (the guy who looks like a goober on Lightspeed #2..)   :)




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[e-mail] said:

>    Load in the triceritops.  Turn the light intesity down to
>zero.  Turn the ambient light down to zero.  render it... and tell
>me if you can still see the sillohette of the triceritops.

   At first I thought your background might be set to something other
than 0,0,0... but after trying it myself (Intel version, not Alpha) I
found you're right: object rendered with 0% ambient and 0% other
light does show up as a slightly lighter area against the full black
BG. But, only in the first preview (F9) render I did. When I saved an
image (without changing the settings) I got a completely black image
with no silhouette. And subsequent F9's gave the same full black image.

   Weird stuff, Maynard.
   No doubt the final 4.0 will be a little less weird. :)

   -Jim

James G. Jones
Nibbles & Bits
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On the dreaded day of 20 Jul 1995 15:14:59 GMT, John Foust ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rotor) says:
: >
: >...well then your not that well plugged in... I've seen both a DEC and Intell version cracked...

: And I'm proud of that.  No, I don't hang out in pirate circles.

: Can anyone else out there verify that LW pre-4.0 dongle
: has been cracked?

I can... heard about it just the other day...
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On the dreaded day of Sun, 30 Jul 1995 00:00:38 GMT, Eric Haddix ([e-mail]) wrote:
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: : In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rotor) says:
: : >
: : >...well then your not that well plugged in... I've seen both a DEC and Intell version cracked...

: : And I'm proud of that.  No, I don't hang out in pirate circles.

: : Can anyone else out there verify that LW pre-4.0 dongle
: : has been cracked?

: I can... heard about it just the other day...

Oh I forgot to mention that it wasn't the exe that I heard
about...it was a program that you ran that did the deed... This
in my opinion is the best method...after all if you don't already
own the program getting a hold of it can be a pain...but if you
do then you aren't gonna hafta worry 'bout that damned dongle
messing with yer parallel port or the like... I can remember
paying 54 dollars for Battlechess and still not being able to
play it due to one of those damned manual-lookup thingies...well
it ain't there anymore...:) OH well just me rambling...L8a
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Yea, Dive is a cool restaurant!!! I second the suggestion..but
it is not close to the convention center..so you would want to
get there at about 9:45PM at the latest..that is when the
restaurant stops accepting new customers..if i remember
correctly..

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[e-mail] (Candyman) wrote:

>  Hmm one thing pro toward the image map side is if you make it seamless
>youcan loop it unlike any fractal texture.

You can loop Lightwave's algorithmic textures.

--
Darren Metcalfe
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Please check out the NEW Amiga Convention WWW page:

http://tdg.uoguelph.ca/~darren/ac/ac.html

The latest news is on there, including 2 new guest speakers and dealers!

Hope to see you there.

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: Yea, Dive is a cool restaurant!!! I second the suggestion..but

Just to toot our horn a little ;-)... Our business partners (the film
division of Fusion) did all the underwater filming shown at Dive.

Paul

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[e-mail] (John Foust) wrote:

>Hmm.  I've got an A4000 030/25 in the other room, with Toaster 4000,
>two 120 meg IDE drives, 18 megs of RAM.

>What's it worth these days?

I think that he won't get that much. He's way too high.

I just sold my 4000/4000 Toaster setup (18MB, etc.) for $3800 and I
thought that was a pretty fair deal for both myself and the
purchasers. I know they are happy, and I am too (bought some 120mhz
Pentium parts with the funds).

But $5500, especially with Opalvision (?) instead of 4000 Toaster, is
kinda ridiculous.

Nextwave


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In article <3vff06$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Elfwork) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Elfwork)
>Subject: Re: Dongle Crack?
>Date: 30 Jul 1995 04:13:58 -0400

>Will an extension cord work with the LightWave dongle?!?

>I tried putting my LW dongle on a switchbox (since it interefered with
>GPFax on my Amiga), but it just would not work!

>Haven't tried on the PC, since it has more than one parallel port.......

>Thanks!

I have tried it on two differnet PCs.  It works fine for me.  The extensions
are the type with a switchbox on the end and are about 3 ft. long.


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In article <3vf6pi$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Hileman) writes:
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>Date: 30 Jul 1995 05:53:54 GMT




>  Could someone with a Dec Alpha do this?
>        Load in the triceritops.  Turn the light intesity down to
>zero.  Turn the ambient light down to zero.  render it... and tell
>me if you can still see the sillohette of the triceritops.

>Thank you...

Don't have an Alpha, but I ran the test on my DX4 "PC" :^) and got the same
result.  I then changed the ambient color from 255 255 255 to 0 0 0 and got a
pitch black image .  Is it possible that your 3.1 defaults to a
different ambient color?  It doesn't seem to me that ambient color should have
an effect with no lights or ambient intensity though - maybe I'll read the
manual.  I checked the surfaces and none have a luminosity setting.  They do
all appear to have 100% diffuse set though.

Hope this helps.

P.S. I just did re-read the manual - no suggestion that ambient color should
have any effect if ambient intensity is 0%.

OOPS!!!!!!!  I erred.  The ambient color is not really having an effect.  The
initial rendered image has the silhouette.  Subsequent renderings do not.
This sounds like a bug to me (a small one admittedly).  Does anyone else get
the same results?



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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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I've just uploaded "moonmap.iff" to

   ftp://tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu/pub/LW/incoming/maps/

It's 1440 x 720 and made specifically for spherical image mapping.  It
was derived from one of the Clementine files at utopia.eps.jhu.edu--
thanks again to Dave Gilinsky for bringing this site to my attention.

- Ernie





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From: [e-mail] (Walter J. Turberville (III))
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Gross) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (John Gross)
>Subject: Re: lighting question
>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 08:15:55 GMT

>:   Could someone with a Dec Alpha do this? :  Load in the triceritops.
>Turn the light intesity down to : zero.  Turn the ambient light down to
>zero.  render it... and tell : me if you can still see the sillohette of
>the triceritops.

>I just tried this with a ball and it works fine. Is your background solid
>black, or is it lighter? If lighter there's your problem...

>(There may have been a bug in the prerelease version, but the one I have
>now is working fine)

>JG

I just tried it with a cube - no ball handy - and I get the grey silhouette on
the first render and total black on the second (no settings changed).  I get
the same result if I save to .iff or .tga.  I'm using 4.0 pre-release on a
DX4-100.

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I was just wondering if anyone out there has or uses the video toaster Flyer?

What is the actual video quality and how well does it work?

Also, how much disk space do you need to do serious projects?

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 Just wondering, how many of you use SPLINES in your daily
modeling?

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Prenter)
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Hi, has anybody seen a REALISTIC looking soccerball object on any FTP
sites?  Any help locating one would be greatly appreciated.

Mark

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: I'm wondering whether anyone has dealt with fluids in LW; for instance,
: pouring liquid from a bottle.

If it's a continual pour (ie. not start/end visible) then a long mega
sub-divided tube with a Y animated displacement map should work a treat.

Row.
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[e-mail] (Elfwork) wrote:
>Will an extension cord work with the LightWave dongle?!?
>
>I tried putting my LW dongle on a switchbox (since it interefered with
>GPFax on my Amiga), but it just would not work!
>
>Haven't tried on the PC, since it has more than one parallel port.......
>
>Thanks!

Make sure that the switchbox has all 25 wires switched. Most of the
switchboxes available in mass retailers, i.e. Office Depot, Wal-Mart,
only have 18 wires and some only have 9.(Parallel printers only use
18 wires and serial devices only use 9)

If you use a 25 wire box there should be no problem.

The above also is true for the cable that you use to connect the
switchbox to your computer.

Hope this helps.

Tony Cannavino
Infovision Entertainment, Inc.



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From: [e-mail] (J Eric Chard)
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WJT wries:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (J Eric Chard) writes:
>>        Not according to my dox.  Frames are to be rendered to system HD, and
>>        xferred to Perception.
>
>>        If I'm wrong, please let me know--but that's what the manual says.
>
>Well - if the manual says so . . .
>
>I was making an assumption based on the Perception software being written for
>NT (or am I wrong there too?).  If it is not possible, it is certainly a
>feature they should seriously consider adding.


    The NT drivers are not there yet, so....

    OTOH, under windows, it only takes about 1.5 seconds to import TGA
    frames into the Perception, so it isn't as much as a pain in the butt
    as one might expect.  Certainly an improvement over the PAR import
    speed.


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>[e-mail] (Candyman) wrote:
>
>>  Hmm one thing pro toward the image map side is if you make it seamless
>>youcan loop it unlike any fractal texture.
>
>You can loop Lightwave's algorithmic textures.
>

    Not directly, and not without jumping through a lot of hoops.

    I wonder if Allen could come up with a LOOPING "random" fractal
    noise???


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In a previous article [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) said:

> I just wanted to thank Michael Comet for putting together the FAQ.  It is much
> needed.  Of course, we can only hope that people choose to read it.

        Thank you!  For those that would like to FTP a copy I FTP
the faq to tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu  in the /pub/LW/tips  (of course
it goes into the /pub/LW/incoming/tips first).  For FAQ 2 I accidentally
sent up a short copy so you will want lwfaq2-fixed.txt  which is the
full version not lwfaq2.txt



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From: blackout@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Blackout)
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Subject: Windows Toaster?
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I just recently read an article in video TOASTER USER that told about a
little stand alone video toaster for windows.  I was just curious if
anyone had any more information on this eight thousand dollar little box.

Did they finally fix the toasters nasty scaling?

[e-mail]


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In article <3vgig6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Steve Tietze) writes:
> Manuel Coats <[e-mail]> wrote:
>

How about if we all plan to meet at say 4:45 at the VTU booth on Wednesday, and
then go from there? I assume the Avid Wavey thing is close by the convention
center... Dive sounds like a good place to go. Anybody in? Email me and let
me know ok..

Alan Chan
Vision Digital

3ed

>
>
>
>
>
>>Okay Alan,  when you know approximately how many people are going to go,
>>double that figure and then call or mail me and I'll make reservations
>>somewhere.  I'm a ways from where all this will be going down but I'll
>>find some place that should work.
>
>
> Well I think the best thing is to set up a meeting at the Show either
> at the VTU booth or Newtek booth on the first day..   I think the
> show goes untill about 5:00 so we could set up for people to start
> gathering around 4:30 at either booth depending on which we
> want them to go.. Then take it from there..
>
> The convention center is on the border of good and bad lands :)
> dont cross the highway :)  There are several places to eat.. I think
> a good one would be "The Dive" the steven spielberg restraunt.
> Its in the shape of the sub.. pretty cool looking..
>
> anyway...
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>>> > Alan Chan > Vision
>>>Digital > (the guy who looks like a goober on Lightspeed #2..)   :)
>
>
>
>
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In article <3vgqqr$[e-mail]>, Adam Ives Chrystie <[e-mail]> writes:

Kewl, you WILL be there right??  :)

I was thinking we could slip dinner in between Siggraph's closing on
Wednesday and the Wavey awards thing... sound like an idea?

Alanb Chan
Vision Digital

>
>
> Yea, Dive is a cool restaurant!!! I second the suggestion..but
> it is not close to the convention center..so you would want to
> get there at about 9:45PM at the latest..that is when the
> restaurant stops accepting new customers..if i remember
> correctly..
>
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> Cinema/Video Major, Senior
> University Of California at Santa Cruz
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From: [e-mail] (Howard Ho)
Subject: Toaster in PAL?
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I'm wondering if anyone out there has successfully ran the Toaster in a
230V/PAL environment? Wondering if there are any tricks they may have
(apart from the obvious PAL<->NTSC) used to get it working well.

I'm having some weirdness so I thought I posted here and try my luck.
(again. 8^)

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From: [e-mail] (Ryan L. McDonald)
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Subject: Lightwave and the PicassoII
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Well I'm really excited about my recent purchase of a Picasso II but am very
disappointed that LightWave 3.5 (and 3.0) have problems with it.  Every thing
in Layout is fine but my wireframe previews DISSAPPEAR after rendering.
In the modeler just about all wireframes dissappear.  Ive tried using
CyberGFX and the Picasso WB emulation.  Any ideas?

Do not autoreply to this message if mailing me.  Use
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I admire you making such a hard decision based on principal.  Your
lifestyle and family come first.  All the best in your new efforts!  Ax


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Isn't Dreamworks prgressing toward the virtual work place?  I would think
that they would see your work and interview you and then if they hire you
you could live anywhere.  Maybe my thinking is wrong, isn't anyone doing
this yet except the Hercules show?  Ax


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Subject: Re: Perception/audio synch-help users/Lee
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What about the DPS audio card.  Isn't it optimized for use with the
Peception?  I haven't heard much about it but I bet it's the way to go.
Ax


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From: [e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits)
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Subject: Splines?
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[e-mail] said:

>Just wondering, how many of you use SPLINES in your daily
>modeling?

   Don't use 'em too often really, but they come in REALLY handy on
occasion. (Try building a Banyon tree without curves sometime. :)

   -Jim

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[e-mail] said:

>I've just uploaded "moonmap.iff" to
>
>ftp://tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu/pub/LW/incoming/maps/
>
>It's 1440 x 720 and made specifically for spherical image mapping.  It
>was derived from one of the Clementine files at utopia.eps.jhu.edu--
>thanks again to Dave Gilinsky for bringing this site to my attention.

   Is Ernie a nice guy, or what?

   On behalf of myself and at least a few lunatics in my immediate
vicinity, Thanks!

   Could your technique be applied to the problem of a proper *Mars*
map? :)

   -Jim

James G. Jones
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Tourangeau)
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Well, I'm a dedicated Mac guy, and I guess I'm... comfortable with the
software I'm using (StrataStuio Pro). It's just... man, LightWave
looks like a pretty cool package. The only thing on the Mac end that
compares to it is EIAS, and that's ten times as expensive. So my
question is, are there ANY plans to port the program to the Mac? I
means, you NewTek guys could be making some real money here. Tonnes of
Mac animators would LOVE to get their hands on your program. (Boy,
don't I sound pathetic...)
    Anyways, let me know if and when you're planning on developing
a Mac version. And if you need any Beta testers, I'd be happy to do
the job :)
    Vince



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Vince Tourangeau, Animator
Digital Motion Studios
[e-mail]

Digital Motion Studios is an inexpensive, professional computer
animation/multimedia house located in the Ottawa area. For more
information, e-mail me at the address above.

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From: [e-mail] (Elfwork)
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Thanks for the info.

Alas, it seems the Amiga dongle is more finicky. I've tried several
different cables, and none of them work. (Not surprising, really.)

Keep On Toastin!
Erik Flom

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Just verified that the switchbox does indeed pass all 25 wires through.
Even verified the extension cable has 25 wires.....

I can't get the dongle to work, even if it's just stuck on the end of a 5'
extension cable.
(Of course, this is on the Amiga, where I _need_ to be able to swap it
out...)

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Let me just saw - I live in LA (Pasadena specifically) and I LOVE IT here.
There are some problems, and some parts of LA are bad places to live. But
we have a big yard, a quiet neighborhood, great restaurants, bookstores,
and theatres all very close by, no traffic problems (this is in Pasadena),
and beach, skiiing, and everything else are close by. Our son goes to a
great (pre)school, there are a ton of adult ed classes, too. Los Angeles
is still one of the best places in the country to live in.

Of course, the last place I lived was TOPEKA, for chrissake....


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[e-mail] (Elfwork) writes:

>Will an extension cord work with the LightWave dongle?!?

>I tried putting my LW dongle on a switchbox (since it interefered with
>GPFax on my Amiga), but it just would not work!

>Haven't tried on the PC, since it has more than one parallel port.......


I put mine on a switch box (4 way), and it works great. Once in about 40-50
startups, LW will come up rendering only b/w instead of color. Just reseat
the dongle and it's okay.

Wouldn't it be nice if NewTek could make the thing truely pass thru?


Doug Rudd
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If you can afford it, keep your Amiga and spring for the fastest pc
you can get. You will need much more memory on the pc as it sucks up
much more ram for the os. If your experiences are like mine and many
others I have talked with, you will find the pc blazingly fast, but
the Amiga very quick and agile. You will likely use the Amiga for
modeling and layout and use the pc for rendering. The Amiga is more
responsive and its multitasking is smoother. Oh, if only the Amiga
were as fast as it is quick.

If you give up your Amiga, you will miss it. The pc environment leaves
much to be desired. If I were limited to just the pc, my creativity
would channel itself back to charcoal, paint, airbrush and canvas. My
3D modeling would be real world. For me, the Amiga makes it fun, the
pc makes it work.



Doug Rudd
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In article <3vdu21$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
Zambrano) wrote:

> In article <3v53lk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (V
Teahan) says:
>
> >
> >Of course we should have guessed..... Your from AOL...
>
> "Your from AOL...",  very good grammer.
>
psst.  It's grammar.  ;)

Kevin

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In article <3va84q$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Hardin Brett Arvid) wrote:

> | My sentiments exactly. It kind of makes me wonder if there's a
> | creativity problem at work or something. Why waste money/time
> | on re-doing a Classic, just because of as change in technology???
>
> | To take your King Kong example a step or two further, why not re-
> | paint the Mona Lisa, now that we have computer graphics?  [gag]
> | Haven't we seen enough of THOSE images yet?   ;)
>
> | There are FAR too many possibilities in the Star Wars universe
> | to waste time going back to retread the original. What a poor
> | decision. Sorry to hear it.
>
> The main thing that the RE-DONE Star Wars will have is:
>
> Better (non existant) mat-lines.  and Jabba the Hut as a CG character.
>
> Some effects will be re-done to look more like George wanted them to
> look like (this is the important part you've missed.  George himself
> wants to re-do a few effects, and add a few missing scenes.  (character
> development that went missing because they figured there'd be only the
> one film)
>
> | Wasn't it Darth Vader who said something like, "Don't be too PROUD
> | of this technological horror you've created..."?
> the exact quite is:
>
> Don't be too proud on this technological terror you've created.  The
                                                         ^^^^^^^
> power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the
> force...[misc ranting deleted]  I find your lack of faith disturbing.
>
Are you sure it isn't "constructed?"

Kevin

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>OOPS!!!!!!!  I erred.  The ambient color is not really having an
effect.  The
>initial rendered image has the silhouette.  Subsequent renderings
do not.
>This sounds like a bug to me (a small one admittedly).  Does
anyone else get
>the same results?


    Thank you... just before I read your post, and, subsequently,
after I read John Gross's post I went back and checked the
triceritops test again.  John said he used a ball, so I tried that.
It rendered fine.  I then tried other objects like furniture. they
rendered fine. Upon reexamination, it appears that the triceritops
renders with a silloette the first time, but it is black each
additional render.  Hmmm...  Just to set the record straight...


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On 25 Jul 1995, Terry Wester wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> ("Phil South") wrote:
>
> > Are there any good spline patching tutorials out there? If not can anyone
> > explain to me how it works, because I've seen a lot of talk about it
> > being a good way to make nice curvy organic shapes.
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Phil South <[e-mail]>   "nuqDaq yuch Dapol"
> > -------------------------------------------------------------


There is a tutorial titled, "Patching Splines" on the Septemeber issue
(#2) of Lightspeed which will be shipping in one week.  You can order a
subscription by calling 800-764-8696 (US only) or 805-726-3545.  I
believe this issue is 1 Hr 40 Mins in length.


Manuel Coats
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i'd sure like to see the virtual workplace become a reality.
i, for one, live in a city where there aren't a whole lot of
glamourous jobs, and would like to have a chance to work for
film companies and whatnot in the major centres like Toronto,
Vancouver, LA, etc. mind you, teleconferences can only work
so well - the face-to-face aspect is vital to most successful
ventures. but if the salary was right, i'd fly almost anywhere
once a week for a meeting...

--
 Cam Wilson ---- [e-mail] ---- Illustrator & Graphic Designer
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Cambridge Studios has an immediate job opening for a LightWave3D
animator to animate maps and other images created with geographical
information system software.  We are producing a new public television
series on world regional geography.  We are modeling on Amigas and
Pentiums and then rendering on a DEC Alpha. The candidate must have
experience with motion paths and some paint programs.  Immediate
availability in Boston is a key factor.  (Job posted 7/31/95)  E-mail
letter and resume (ASCII text only) to [e-mail] or fax resume to
617-630-8299.  You may call if serious.  This is a full time job (plus
some extra), essentially for the month of August, 1995.  We will
entertain proposals from animators with their own businesses, but the
work must be done in our facilities on our equipment at an hourly
independent contractor rate of about $15/hour.  Please DO NOT call us
if you would like to propose to do the work on your own hardware!  We
are anxious to receive your reply.


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  I was originally from Los Angeles and came up north for
school and I love it here...it is still clean and foresty
here..it's not an urban wasteland like Los Angeles..and just
over the hill is Silicon Valley (Urban wasteland #2)..but hey,
that's over the mountain from me :)

   The people up here seem to be nicer for some reason...I
haven;t seen a traffic fight at all up here!

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Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
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The .vue file is a 3DStudio ascii file that describes keyframe data.
 I use it with Vistapro to import my camera moves from 3DS to VP so
I can matte it buildings etc. over a VP rendered scene.
It is not the same a s a Lightwave motion file but is simply a frame
by frame location of every object/light/camera. These files can get
pretty large on a couple thousand frame animation!

Hope this helps. If you have anymore questions just ask.

BTW I haven't used 3DS for more than an hour or two in the last month.
(Remarkably the same time I got LW PC Prerelease. :-) )

Below is a .vue for a 10 frame scene with only a camera.

camera.vue

VERSION 201

frame 0
camera 21.1765 -76.4706 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 1
camera 24.1176 -74.4314 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 2
camera 27.0588 -72.3922 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 3
camera 30 -70.3529 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 4
camera 32.9412 -68.3137 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 5
camera 35.8824 -66.2745 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 6
camera 38.8235 -64.2353 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 7
camera 41.7647 -62.1961 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 8
camera 44.7059 -60.1569 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50

frame 9
camera 47.6471 -58.1176 0 21.1765 42.3529 0 0 50




>David Warner wrote:

>> Now, can you tell me what software uses the.vue motion file format(I'm
>> pretty sure it is 3DS) and how does it relate to LightWave's motion >>file
>> format?
>




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>
> Just wondering, how many of you use SPLINES in your daily
>modeling?
>
>Adam Chrystie [e-mail]

    Hell no.


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Douglas Rudd writes:

>If your experiences are like mine and many
>others I have talked with, you will find the pc blazingly fast, but
>the Amiga very quick and agile. You will likely use the Amiga for
>modeling and layout and use the pc for rendering. The Amiga is more
>responsive and its multitasking is smoother.


    I'll second this.  I like the fast render times on the PC, but I
despise and loathe what MS believes is multi-tasking.  It stinks on ice
, and yes, I'm talking NT here.

    Any Microsoftians here?  Can you tell us why this is true?



>Oh, if only the Amiga were as fast as it is quick.

    <sigh> Indeed.
>

>Doug Rudd

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James Jones wrote:

>    Could your technique be applied to the problem of a proper *Mars*
> map? :)

Let me answer in a roundabout way.  The lunar map now at tomahawk isn't
quite the holy grail.  It's an artist rendering with highlights and
shadows already drawn on.  What we really need is two separate images,
one that encodes elevation (a bump or displacement map) and another that
shows the surface color (dark maria, bright ejecta rays, etc.) without
any shadows.

A 0.25 degree elevation map is available for both the Moon and Mars, but
I haven't seen any corresponding surface color maps.  The good news for
Mars is that there's tons of data out there--NASA offers a CD collection,
a catalog for which can be found (somewhere) on the net.  There isn't any
comparable data collection for the Moon, mostly because the data doesn't
exist.  In fact, the elevation measurements done by Clementine, the best
we have, don't include the areas within 10 or so degrees latitude of the
poles.

BTW, just to be clear, my contribution amounted to a file format conver-
sion and a couple of simple image processing steps.

- Ernie


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From: [e-mail] (Walter J. Turberville (III))
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Subject: Re: the need for speed
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In article <3vja16$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Douglas Rudd) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Douglas Rudd)
>Subject: Re: the need for speed
>Date: 31 Jul 1995 13:13:42 -0600


>If you can afford it, keep your Amiga and spring for the fastest pc
>you can get. You will need much more memory on the pc as it sucks up
>much more ram for the os.

[snip]
While you are correct that the OS requires more RAM on a PC than an Amiga
(even if you are running plain old 3.X Windows) it doesn't necessarily follow
that you NEED any more RAM on the PC because . . .

1) Windows has virtual memory built in as part of the OS.
2) Current motherboards have VESA local bus or PCI bus I/O cards readily
available.

So - while virtual memory does slow things down, it may not be as bad as you think.
Combining moderate segment sizes with the fast virtual paging does impact
performance, but still leaves rendering speeds at a significant advantage over
the typical Amiga.

I am aware that there are at least two programs for the Amiga that provide
virtual memory.  However, I have heard many people complain of configuration
problems and sometimes buggy operation (some say it works great as well.  Its
an added cost feature on the Amiga in both software expense and time.

We recently needed to render out a poster sized image. For our purposes, we
decided that a 2000x3000 pixel resolution was adequate.  We couldn't get the
segment size small enough to render this on a 20mb Amiga.  However, on the PC
with 20mb we could render it by (had to increase the PageOverCommit setting)
increasing the virtual memory to 50mb and choosing a segment size around 2.2
mb (I think).

Of course, more memory IS ALWAYS better and you should configure a PC with
more memory than an Amiga to get the most out of it.  I just want to make the
point that it is not absolutely necessary to do so and that you can get very
useful results at respectable speeds on PCs with a relatively small amount of
RAM despite the greater OS overhead.

>Doug Rudd
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>They will get my Amiga from me when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



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Subject: Re: lighting question
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In article <3vjon3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Hileman) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (John Hileman)
>Subject: Re: lighting question
>Date: 31 Jul 1995 23:24:19 GMT

>>OOPS!!!!!!!  I erred.  The ambient color is not really having an
>effect.  The
>>initial rendered image has the silhouette.  Subsequent renderings
>do not.
>>This sounds like a bug to me (a small one admittedly).  Does
>anyone else get
>>the same results?


>    Thank you... just before I read your post, and, subsequently,
>after I read John Gross's post I went back and checked the
>triceritops test again.  John said he used a ball, so I tried that.
>It rendered fine.  I then tried other objects like furniture. they
>rendered fine. Upon reexamination, it appears that the triceritops
>renders with a silloette the first time, but it is black each
>additional render.  Hmmm...  Just to set the record straight...

Just to make things a little clearer.  It seems to me that the first scene
rendered upon a "fresh" load of LW will exhibit this anomaly - regardless of
the object (though I haven't tried an exhaustive series of objects).  It is
not unique to the triceritops object.



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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (J Eric Chard) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (J Eric Chard)
>Subject: Re: Clouds
>Date: 30 Jul 1995 22:20:13 -0700

>>[e-mail] (Candyman) wrote:
>>
>>>  Hmm one thing pro toward the image map side is if you make it seamless
>>>youcan loop it unlike any fractal texture.
>>
>>You can loop Lightwave's algorithmic textures.
>>

>        Not directly, and not without jumping through a lot of hoops.

>        I wonder if Allen could come up with a LOOPING "random" fractal
>        noise???


>>Darren Metcalfe
>>[e-mail]
>>

>****************************************************************************
>*   (OOOOO)  [e-mail]       |  Synergy Graphix & Animation     *


This is all interesting, but why would I want to loop the cloud texture?
Clouds don't loop in real life.  That is one reason I like the fractal texture
method if the clouds are going to move.  It easily adapts to whatever scene
length I need.

I also prefer putting clouds on a flat surface precisely because I can get a
nice diminishing-toward-the-horizon effect.  Of course, there is no "right"
way to do any of this.  Just whatever gives you the look you are after.

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In article <3vbsj3$[e-mail]> Adam Ives Chrystie <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Adam Ives Chrystie <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Dongle Crack?
>Date: 28 Jul 1995 23:41:23 GMT



>I think there must be...I've heard that LightWave PC is
>floating around the pirate boards...but it crashes alot on
>them..so perhaps they cracked an old beta..or is this NewTeks
>revenge on them :)..but in anycase this is alarming...We'll
>see how well the dongle works after the final release comes
>out...hope the donlge stops the piracy..but they never have
>before.

>-----------------------------------------------------------
>Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
>Cinema/Video Major, Senior
>University Of California at Santa Cruz
>------------------------------------------------------------

Nothing stops piracy.  Some things slow it down to a more manageable rate
though.  It should surprise nobody that a crack will be made.  It is about as
safe a bet as could be made.




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                 The quality is pretty sweet, if you go for the lower compression ratios. Other than that the flyer is an over priced
piece of junk. If you realy want to do some serious editing and can afford the flyer and the neccesary hard drive space, its
better to go for DATATRANSLATIONS or something like that which has good software and 3rd party support plus
comparable quality. You realy need to be a diehard NEWTEK fan (or AMIGA fan) to commit to the flyer, or if you are willing
to part with some serious money for a straight cuts only system with realy nice quality and glitchy, ugly, lame software, give a
whirl.


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From: Manuel Coats <[e-mail]>
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The Digital Fantasies animation tape (100% Lightwave animations) should
be ready to ship the last week of August.  There were a few of you who
had sent me VHS copies of your work which I still need to receive a
higher end tape format for editing.  I sent mail to those I knew of.  If
I missed you for some reason, please e-mail or call me.  Due to a couple
requests, we're going to wait until after Siggraph to edit (I'm getting a
couple tapes AT siggraph) so if you have some lightwave animations you
would like to show off to the world and you'd like to get a free copy of
the video, send a SVHS, 3/4" (SP), or Betacam (SP) to:

Digital Concept Productions
Attn: Digital Fantasies
2763 West Ave L Suite 172
Lancaster, CA. 93536

I would need these by August 10th.  Regardless of what is received or not
received by then, the 10th IS the day we edit, so PLEASE, get everything
in by that time.

By the way, I have gotten several messages asking if there would be a 2nd
Digital Fantasies tape.  I think the answer to this is yes.  The
animations we have gotten for the most part have been done on amigas.
Based on our Lightspeed subscriptions though, it seems like most people
now have PC's which means more frames rendered at higher quality and
shorter times... so the next tape should have some really good stuff.
I'll post more on that after the 1st tape is finished and shipping.

Manuel Coats
805-945-9870
Digital Concept Productions


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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>: This test was done on my pc pre-release lightwave on
>: my dec alpha....

>hmm if you've somehow figured out how to run the PC version of
>LightWave
>>on an Alpha workstation then you deserve a hand!
>>
>>I don't know why you're having the described lighting problems,
>but it may
>>have something to do with the fact that you need to run the Alpha
>version
>>of LightWave on an Alpha workstation, and the PC version of
>LightWave on
>>a PC....they're NOT interchangeable, and they ARE sold seperately

>  Excuse me...   I apologize for the mis terminoligy... I am new to
>the MS dos world.  On my :   Dec Alpha compiled windows NT version
>of lightwave.  :)    In the future I will try to be more
>technically correct in my posts.  And the lighting problem is a
>real one...  I have an amiga 3000 running 3.1 lightwave, and It
>does not have the same problem...

>  Could someone with a Dec Alpha do this?
>        Load in the triceritops.  Turn the light intesity down to
>zero.  Turn the ambient light down to zero.  render it... and tell
>me if you can still see the sillohette of the triceritops.

>Thank you...

            no problem ur not mental if you do as prescribed above it will
leave a sillohette of the tric.. u neglected to turn down the diffuse
surface setting to zero then it workd fine...



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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

>[e-mail] (Candyman) wrote:

>>  Hmm one thing pro toward the image map side is if you make it seamless
>>youcan loop it unlike any fractal texture.

>You can loop Lightwave's algorithmic textures.

hmm if i had ur technique for that i could have another tool..how do u
loop fractal noise?

>--
>Darren Metcalfe
>[e-mail]





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                  From the jumbled mind of the Candyman

> Just wondering, how many of you use SPLINES in your daily
>modeling?

>-----------------------------------------------------------
>Adam Chrystie [e-mail]
>Cinema/Video Major, Senior
>University Of California at Santa Cruz
>------------------------------------------------------------


      splines are your friend :)



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>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (J Eric Chard)
>>From: [e-mail] (J Eric Chard)
>>Subject: Re: Clouds
>>Date: 30 Jul 1995 22:20:13 -0700

>>>[e-mail] (Candyman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hmm one thing pro toward the image map side is if you make it seamless
>>>>youcan loop it unlike any fractal texture.
>>>
>>>You can loop Lightwave's algorithmic textures.
>>>

>>        Not directly, and not without jumping through a lot of hoops.

>>        I wonder if Allen could come up with a LOOPING "random" fractal
>>        noise???


>>>Darren Metcalfe
>>>[e-mail]
>>>

>>****************************************************************************
>>*   (OOOOO)  [e-mail]       |  Synergy Graphix & Animation     *


>This is all interesting, but why would I want to loop the cloud texture?
>Clouds don't loop in real life.  That is one reason I like the fractal
>method if the clouds are going to move.  It easily adapts to whatever scene
>length I need.

>I also prefer putting clouds on a flat surface precisely because I can get a
>nice diminishing-toward-the-horizon effect.  Of course, there is no "right"
>way to do any of this.  Just whatever gives you the look you are after.

>_________________________________________________________________
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>Phoenix, AZ                |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
>...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

     As you say there is no right way my philosophy behind looping clouds
is when I have to mat an anim over them a seamless image map on the inside
of a spinning half dome gives me the proper perspective without the
heavier rendering times..personal choice depending on circumstances but
never hurts to know more ways..:)


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